this post was submitted on 27 Aug 2023
8 points (100.0% liked)

Technology

59322 readers
5106 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Apple to Limit iPhone 15 USB-C Cables to USB 2.0 Speeds: Report::undefined

top 22 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How do apple fan boys keeps eating this shit-sandwich year after year?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Most people are totally lost in a sea of capitalistic greed and wealth indicators. If you don't keep up with the Joneses, are you really alive?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Cunts gonna cunt.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

In other news: company with long history of selling over-priced, under featured products to aspirational nitwits does it again!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TFW a wifi transfer literally loads files from your phone faster than a fucking cable.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the point. Expect the iPhone 17 to be portless to the consumer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There has to be a USB-C. Some people will always want wires to transfer data, even if it's through their "wireless charger", which is proprietary.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And some people will always want a headphone jack... oh wait...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Little bit of a strange article.

First, it's about data transfer speeds. I don't think... anyone else in my extended family, and certainly none of the iPhone users, use a cable to transfer data frequently.

But more importantly - the subtitle of the article says that only the pro models offer faster charging speeds. Despite the article being exclusively about data transfer speeds.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Amazing how this company is so successful knowing they're just scamming their clients

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Apple's propriety Lightning cable may offer cross-device compatibility

I may need to see the math on this. I thought the only devices it worked across were ones apple decided it would; devices within its own offerings, specifically after relenting on its decision to NOT let them.

It's less "hands across America" and more "stop hitting yourself" while still not playing nice with others.

Please show me where I'm wrong.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't buy products from Apple or Microsoft. It's not impossible, it's not even difficult

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you use google and Samsung?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use android, OnePlus ATM. I stopped using google search since years ago and use DDG which I love and has been superior to google for years now. Still use google storage but I'd like to shift to a different provider, maybe self hosting with nextcloud

I loved Samsung up to about 5 years ago or so, it's absolute shite now. Samsung was awesome but got complacent int heir success and now it's all corporate bullshit. Bought a monitor that literally fell apart, spent literally over 20 hours on the phone for them to apply warranty. Samsung TVs are now spyware adservers, wtf? Samsung phones are overpriced bloatware machines that can't be cleaned up.

For tv I'd go with LG now, I guess and I hoe they won't fuck it up.

Even for streaming I use jellyfin now to get rid of Disney, prime and Netflix

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good approaches :D hope your android is degoogled. With OnePlus, I can recommend to try PostmarkedOS. It is a linux alpine for multiple android phones, and OnePlus phones are one of the best supported devices.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Nope, it is not. I want to rip google out as it's actively annoying me. Now there is this "swipe left and get google shit" that I don't want and can't disable anymore after an update they did. That for me is reason enough to dump all this shit and go for something different.

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll look into it!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then they’re not standards compliant and they can’t claim to have usb-c on their phones. I wonder how that will work out for them?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

USB-C is the physical form. Does it actually dictate USB3?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well, charger cables are usually at USB 2.0 speed because USB-PD works the same, but signal integrity doesn't matter as much, so you can make a longer, more flexible cable without using in-cable shielding...

So this is misleading, since the included cable coming in 2.0 speed (missing pins) absolutely does not mean that the iPhone USB-C port will only support 2.0.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The article states that the iPhone (the device itself) will be limited to USB 2.0 speed. Do you have information otherwise? Also limiting the speed does not mean it will not support the additional protocols that USB-C would allow for. I believe why people are making a fuzz over this is that people with iPhones want to be able to do large exports/backups/imports. Specifically those that use the devices professionally. In those cases you would want all the speed you can have, and this feels like an arbitrary limit set by Apple because they don’t want to fully comply. Perhaps there are good reasons due to heat issues in the storage controller.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Well, the article showed their original source, the tweet, which shows cable spec, data from a tester, and teardown ONLY. 16 pins on the male connector instead of the full 24 means USB 2.0 transfer speed is the maximum it can support, which is typical of a charger cable. (And no, this cable won't be able to support things like DisplayPort since the 3.0 data pins are missing. )

My main point is that there is no information on the device side USB port configuration at all, therefore there is no conclusion that can be drawn about the USB-C port on the new iPhone yet, and it's incredibly bad journalism for Extremetech to draw conclusion about device side spec from only the spec of the included charger cable.