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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

I set up a Raspberry Pi 3 with AdguardHome for a friend of mine, and told him to disconnect everything at home and try to watch anything on his phone, being the only device using his home's internet.

He just sent me this, and now he's ready to #degoogle ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

He says there were hundreds in less than 5 minutes.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I agree that these should be blocked for privacy, but the amount of these requests is really completely meaningless. The reason there are so many is because they are blocked, not despite it. It will keep trying over and over on failure.

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Yep, it's the same with Plex analytics on my server. Every minute or so it's reaching out to the void. I've disabled it on my accounts privacy settings page but it still tries.

[โ€“] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They're just too much, seriously. He's getting a Pixel 6 Pro to put GraphenOS on it. I have the 7Pro and have been on Graphene or Calyx for about 2 years now. No regrets.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Tell him to make sure to change the Connectivity check domains to GrapheneOS ones. Plenty of people im this thread explained you about those. In theory, ypu could disable it, but the main OS will assume you have no connection, despite actually able to connect, and some apps may break.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Haven't had any issues with it breaking. Some apps maybe need google play services to unfortunately I do use that since not everybody uses Unified Push

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

It's really on more specific cases. I had it happen with a couple of apps that prevented me even trying to connect to it. I think the entire system should be fine working despite the connectivity check being entirely disabled.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

there are hundreds because they got blocked.
android phones actively retry connectivity checks every 3 seconds until a successful connection is achieved, then it ramps down to a check every 5 minutes, and the default server is google's. (this functionality is used for the little exclamation mark next to the wifi icon if there's no internet connection)
no data is sent along that request (it's just a GET request), not even useragent etc (the only thing google gets is the source of the request, aka the ip address, which is basically meaningless if it's not associated with any other data)
you should actually be able to point that domain to any ip that responds with empty body + http 204 code to /generate_204 and it should work as expected

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Oh, cool. I'll look into redirecting these to a 204. That should be a pretty interesting experiment for me. Thank you.

[โ€“] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago

Bro its just one more connectivity check bro just another connectivity check bro its just a connectivity check bro

[โ€“] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (4 children)

That shows they're doing a connectivity check to see if they're online (which they aren't).. And grabbed Android TV channels.

Connectivity checks in particular are absolutely standard practice. Even many routers do them

I'm not convinced this is a good reason for dumping google

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[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

To be fair, I do agree the connectivity check should not be there. It should just let you connect to the network, and if it doesn't have internet, then so be it. You'll figure that out the second you try to load something. Plus, it makes it really annoying to set up a new Wi-Fi router or something without internet because you have to disable data and then turn on Wi-Fi and connect to the network to force it to stay on the network and not switch over to mobile data.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Lol.. Disconnect all devices.... That would take me a good half hour..

Just use the filter

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I hear you. He has maybe 7 devices total in his house, whereas I have upwards of 150. I'd have to basically kill all my VLANs, create a temporary WiFi network just for this, and test, only to return everything back to normal afterwards. That'd be the easiest and fastest route for my infrastructure.

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