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[–] [email protected] 166 points 8 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 74 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

cokaina... todays topic, slavery

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Hyping up the stock price.

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[–] [email protected] 133 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We already have that abundance. It's just waiting to be liberated.

[–] [email protected] 118 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It’s grifting, pure and simple. All those things may be possible but Sam Altman is spewing this line of bullshit to keep the venture capital flowing into his company.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Exactly. As a SW engineer, I don't know how far we are from an AGI exactly, but I am confident enough Altman and openAi have no idea where to even start.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

As a SW engineer

I read that and immediately thought of you working in a Star Wars hangar, fixing rebel ships

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The current state of capitalism will ensure the second line never sees the light of day

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (3 children)

deregulated capitalism is a curse on society

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We can already create enough abondance that no human starves, sleep outside or can't affotd medical treatment. Still look at the world.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Abundance is already here, tons of food are destroyed and thrown out when they accidentally make too much while people are starving, there's no money in abundance, it's the artificial lack of supply that keeps prices high and profits soaring.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Food isn't the only resource in the equation. Most of the resources are limited and even diminishing.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

The first paragraph? Can't say I disagree.

Second paragraph? Delusional. Or actively deceitful. Given Altman's background, I'm leaning toward the second.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We already have abundance at scale; the rest is just greed and logistics

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

It's enough to look at how much stuff is available in a supermarket, or in the average, home, to know we live in an age of abundance. The problem is, is that abundance is not shared, but hoarded.

We have enough food to feed the world, we have enough production for everyone in the world to have a smartphone and internet access and electricity. We can make clothes for everyone, we can home everyone. We have enough healthcare for everyone.

By an objective measure, we have abundance, we have enough. The world is just severely mismanaging our resources and the distribution of them. Because the economy doesn't work for humans, instead humans work for the economy.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 8 months ago

It's just bait for investors. This is the kind of crap that gets people with money and zero understanding of computers to buy stocks.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago

The thing that keeps us from living lives of abundance is not a lack of technology.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It’s true—for a very exclusive interpretation of “we”.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (1 children)

An issue with this tweet is that we already have the capacity to do a lot. We have the technology to provide healthy and diverse diets for the entire planet and fit a cities worth of farming inside a few city blocks (vertical hydroponics/aeroponics). We have the ability to create electricity in a dozen different renewable ways. We have the ability to desalinate water creating nearly infinite fresh water, we have enough square footage in the world to easily house everyone. We have stellar education systems that we could hand out to the entire world.

Why don't we do it? Well, all these things cost money. But the issue is, there also exists staggering amounts of money across the world. The panama papers revealed just a fraction of the wealth being hoarded by just a fraction of the wealthiest people in the world (and most implicated in the panema papers weren't even too crazy, like soccer stars and business owners). There's exists tens to hundreds of trillions of dollars of wealth created by the world just floating around in billionaires bank accounts and in the coffers of world powers.

So it's not an issue of abundance coming in the near future, we have it here on earth right now.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I feel like AGI might be the furthest away of all those things.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago

If we means the human race, it's absolutely true. There's just no mention of a timeline.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

This reads like Musk promising everyone that his imaginary train will be faster and cheaper than everything else.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago

Marketing...

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago

Every rich tech bro has convince themselves they are the savior of the world.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Great... And and will this abundance be shared or hoarded for profit like everything else that is abundant already is?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

Just put it in chatgpt I'm sure it will figure it all out

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

Sure. Just need to get a bunch of trillions hoarded away by billionaires and throw it at R&D to solve these problems and I bet it would happen.

These rich fuckers making proclamations like that yet somehow still expecting someone else to pay for the solutions.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

It's delusional. The problems we have are not caused by lack of technology and cannot be solved by new technology.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He's not wrong. He's probably not going to be the guy leading the charge on any of that but he's not wrong.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

He's forgetting about the part where it'll be monetized in such a way that only the rich will benefit.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think he believes what he's saying. From his perspective AGI will be great, and a lot of people think that AI and quantum computing will have a feedback loop where AI will help us create a better quantum computer which will make a better AI and so on...

Down here in the filth though, we're going to go through mass unemployment, rapid shifts in markets, loss of privacy due to increasingly sophisticated AI powered surveillance, and complete loss of our freedom of speech.

So, all that stuff probably will happen to people like him. Just not us.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

AI will help us create a better quantum computer which will make a better AI

Current "AI" is just LLMs. They don't need some crazy quantum supercomputer. They aren't improved by more processing power.

They need a ton of data to work at a basic level. There's no reason to think that future programs will just get better on their own. Especially if a lot of data is now LLM generated. They have no capacity to learn on their own through research.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It's a cult. Altman is one of the TESCREAL devotees. He truly believes that he can build the electronic messiah.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

I gotta find a way to filter out techbros from my feed.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

We don't even have NGI.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

He isn't wrong, but the pathways is by taxing the absolute fuck out of billionaires

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't think most of these people realize that Earth has finite resources, and we're already running short on some of them

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

they’re absolutely correct we will make all of these breakthroughs, but you dear reader? will benefit from none of them

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Aah, the innocence of 2022.. 🫠

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

And who do you think will be in charge of all of these things? Lol

Cocaine is a helluva drug.

[–] slowroll 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Artificial General Intelligence

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Adjusted Gross Income.

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