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[–] [email protected] 53 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Outer suburbs. There, saved you a click.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But…that's exactly where I thought it would be? Like, where else would it be? Inner suburbs less likely to drive in general, and rural is more likely to need (or at least perceive the need for) greater range.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I don't understand the premise of the headline either - unless it's supposed to be some slight on 'inner-city lefties', being the only ones who could possibly want an EV...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The ABC now likes to do clickbait style headlines like that to try and grab attention, it's a trend that annoys me. They also often rotate through options including a more traditional headline depending on what device you use and what time you access it - currently the headline is showing for me as "Electric car sales in Australia's outer suburbs take off as commuters pocket 'ridiculous' savings", which while still a bit hyped up is more informative.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

They also often rotate through options including a more traditional headline depending on what device you use and what time you access it

Often what they do is have the actual article headline be something properly journalistic, but they set a meta tag on the article called the "og:title" (og stands for "open graph", which is a standard for describing the contents of your article to social media sites)—which is what usually gets set as the title if you use the "copy suggested title" button, or what is displayed as the title under a link on Facebook—to something more clickbaity.

Personally, I don't like it, especially from the ABC who have no revenue incentive, but strictly logically it makes sense. Keep your on-site journalism having integrity, while displaying to social media what is going to get the most clicks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Where you can install solar panels and charge in your garage.

Shocker.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Good bot! /s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Huh, I'm in the outer suburbs and I bought an EV. I feel targeted.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Makes sense, if you live in an apartment, where do you charge your car?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

More density also equals better public transport and walkability, so easier to go car free or car light.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Interesting, does that lead to a significant less uptake to personal vehicles all up for inner suburbs then?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

All I could find is this map: https://www.microburbs.com.au/heat-map/cars-per-household#151.21574744788342:-33.84319955763839:13 but I'm not sure where the data is sourced from. It does show lower car ownership in more central areas of Sydney.

And this, but it only splits by "greater metropolitan" type areas, which would obviously include outer suburbs: https://profile.id.com.au/australia/car-ownership?WebID=260

It does show there is slightly lower motor vehicle ownership in cities broadly, and I'd anecdotally expect that to be lower within inner suburbs.

And for Brisbane: https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/where-in-brisbane-do-people-own-the-most-cars-search-for-your-suburb-20230712-p5dnou.html

indicates higher car ownership as you go further from the CBD, although it only compares 3 or more cars vs less than 3.

EDIT: Oh and this quote from the Brisbane Times article:

The top five suburbs with no cars were in the inner-city with more public transport and walking options – Brisbane City (40.4 per cent of homes had no vehicles), Bowen Hills (29.2 per cent), Fortitude Valley (28.7 per cent), Spring Hill (23.8 per cent) and South Brisbane (21.9 per cent).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Body Corporate will usually let you install a charger.

The bigger issue is if you live in the city, how much driving do you do? 50km each month? Someone who drives that far daily will benefit more from an EV

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, from my understanding EVs have way less maintenance than ICEs, so would be better considering the lack of travel.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Sure but any car will have low maintenance if you don't drive it much.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you live in an apartment and own a car, you're parking it somewhere. Get chargers installed there.

It might mean talking to the local council about roadside chargers or talking to strata about installing a charger in the basement car park, but it's not an unsolvable problem. Though actually solving it might mean waiting until more voters are pressuring council.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

One of my colleagues bought a model3 recently, he charges it in one of the charging bays in his apartment building.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

It's not in the Southern Hemisphere?

Man, now I gotta update all my globes