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Earlier, after review, we blocked and removed several communities that were providing assistance to access copyrighted/pirated material, which is currently not allowed per Rule #1 of our Code of Conduct. The communities that were removed due to this decision were:

We took this action to protect lemmy.world, lemmy.world's users, and lemmy.world staff as the material posted in those communities could be problematic for us, because of potential legal issues around copyrighted material and services that provide access to or assistance in obtaining it.

This decision is about liability and does not mean we are otherwise hostile to any of these communities or their users. As the Lemmyverse grows and instances get big, precautions may happen. We will keep monitoring the situation closely, and if in the future we deem it safe, we would gladly reallow these communities.

The discussions that have happened in various threads on Lemmy make it very clear that removing the communites before we announced our intent to remove them is not the level of transparency the community expects, and that as stewards of this community we need to be extremely transparent before we do this again in the future as well as make sure that we get feedback around what the planned changes are, because lemmy.world is yours as much as it is ours.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Coward shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Definitely think you should allow them again. Obviously not on your instance but restricting access to other instances is just not right. I do understand the concern though, I really hope in the end you realllow them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeeeep. I stopped using my LW account once you people simped to Facebook federation.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If you're going to ban piracy you should also ban all pro copyright communities and comments, it's only fair.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

grabs popcorn

  • me, a lemmy.dbzer0.com native
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

lemmy.world has become reddit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

is this the new most downvoted post on lemmy?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

Wow. It’s amazing the replies here. If you want to steal other peoples work, then go elsewhere. No one owes you the right to steal other peoples content.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

Lovely this happened because someone complained after being banned from the piracy instance for being a transphobic asshole.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You're not allowed to discuss piracy. You wouldn't talk about stealing a car would you?

Delete this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You are allowed to discuss piracy. You aren’t allowed to facilitate piracy (I.e. providing links to pirated content). It is illegal in the country where this instance is hosted.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That community never linked to pirated content, you goose

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Except for the times when it did, shown above complete with screenshots.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

While I'm not ethically opposed pirating, I understand and would probably do the same for a server I was hosting. Anybody remember Kim Dotcom's mansion raid?

What I do not understand is blocking a community surrounding magic mushrooms.. No one is going to prosecute the L.W admins for people discussing shrooms/their use...

Substances are legal/illegal depending on where one lives, just like weed which is apparently perfectly fine to post here, even tho possession is a death sentence in some countries.

It simply doesn't logically follow that weed, or even alcohol communities are permissible while a shroom community is not.

Banning any content deemed illegal in any country in the world establishes a very dangerous precedence (if that's the justification here). Free speech/dissenting from the government is illegal in many places in the world.

One thing the community must remember tho, is that you have to operate your server in accordance with the law in which country you're hosting it (in this case Germany).

I'll gladly admit I'm not too familiar with German law, but it seems unreasonable to expect government persecution for hosting servers which hosts a shroom discussion community.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Surely there is a discussion to be had around what is and isn't allowed, there are plenty of subreddits discussing piracy without dolirect links that are playing within the rules.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Especially because discussing copies of your own data also happens in such communities. There must be clear guidelines what can and cannot be discussed. Also, it would have been nice to have those communities selfregulate. For example, giving them 30 days to comply, e.g. removing any content that breaks the law.

Because the fediverse i about democracy. If laws stand in the way of democracy since they have been brought up by governments influenced by global corporations (which are by definition autocratic) then they must be ignored.

So, striking a balance to not get anyone in trouble while not working for IP holders is the way.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Because the fediverse i about democracy.

Isn't it, like, the opposite? With the main assumption being that you should find an instance that aligns with your interests and values, not find an instance and try to vote for it to become something you like? That is technically "voting with your feet" but instances don't actually need a large population to stay running.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's only about democracy if you make your own instance. Otherwise, you have to follow the rules of wherever you're signed up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

If you make your own instance, as a one-man thing, then it's not really democracy at all either. The only way it would be democracy is if you made your own instance and specifically said "all decisions will be made via vote" and you actually had users around to participate in those votes.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yeah I'm subbed to few piracy comms just because I like to see how that side of things is going. I've never seen anyone post or comment a link to a pirated file. I've never even seen anyone link to a website. It's all been news and discussions and that's it.

Actually, Reddit was far worse with huge ass lists of links to games and sites.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

I’m guessing the idea here is to eventually sell out to a corporate operator

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

I don't understand why people are upset even a little about this. This is a prefect advert for the fediverse. If you are not completely happy with an instance(which can never realistically happen) then you just host your own or have multiple accounts. Apps have this built in and easily accessible. Why do people want to concentrate everything they want into one instance? What if that instance goes down? This should not be hated or applauded.... just ignored as the way the fediverse should work. Don't get too attached to any single instance.

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