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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Maybe if they spent more money making it a good experience that respects customers and developers alike and less on bribing platform exclusives they would be better?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

My personal favorite platform is GOG simply because it offers actual ownership instead of a crippling dependency on their ecosystem. My second favorite is Steam because it has games GOG doesn't. I'm not sure why I would want EGS beyond the free games, which are frequently not of interest to me anyway.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I'm probably in the minority but platform exclusives actually make me AVOID your platform. I hate this type of bullshit.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

"We're also putting great focus on ongoing launcher improvements that will make the store feel great to use," Allison added (my hottest tip: remember my freakin' login!).

Oh I thought I had this issue because of some layer of lutris/proton but everyone gets regularly disconnected? Hahahha (Never bought a game on Epic. And obviously not playing Rocket League anymore. :'( )

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Their active hostility toward Linux users has put me off them pretty much permanently. If they made a big push toward Linux support, I might look at them more favourably.

They clearly don't want me as a customer: fuck 'em.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

The Epic store sucks so much that I’ve gotta look the game up on Steam just to tell what I’m supposed to be looking at on Epic.

Seriously, look up any game on the EGS right now and you’ve gotta scroll past a mountain of bullshit just to get a description of the game. It kinda reminds me of those really shitty cooking sites with all the fluff.

Hah you can report a game before you even get a description or a screenshot from the game

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Even with the free games you don’t always get a picture of video of actual gameplay. Just marketing bs.

Like, I have no idea what this game is about.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

This is the experience of every game in every store. I don't know how anyone chooses a game from the store.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago

They skipped step one of enshittification. You've got to GET the customers before you can leverage them against your suppliers.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

First, make it load way faster. Your app is second to everything I want to do.

Second, if I click on a game in my library, I don't expect it to install in one single click. Even Steam has the decency to ask what I want to do. Maybe I want to remember what the game is about first.

Third, I expect you to update your client automatically instead of badgering me with restarting the app manually.

There, you made it 80% better for me with that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

They could also just say "screw this" and invest in the excellent Heroic Games Launcher (just like CDPR/GOG did to some extent).

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 days ago

Imagine how successful their store could have been if they had put all that money into improving the launcher and not antagonizing large parts of their customer base instead.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Amazing how slow development has been for their launcher. I don't know what is holding it back but the UI and lack of features seem like easy fixes for a company with those levels of resources.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, they’ve been pushing all their capital toward exclusives and free giveaways.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (4 children)

It's insanity. They do have all the money in the world so I'm happy to claim free games. Never going to buy there unless the game will never come to steam (Alana Wake 2 being the one exception).

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I got so tired of being logged out and having to jump through so many captcha hoops to get back in that I don't even claim the free games anymore.

Logging into Steam is crazy easy and I never get logged out.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fortnite making them shit ton of money hand over fist is what’s holding them back probably. Much easier to just throw money at the store and buy exclusives and giveaways than taking away manpower from their money maker into a project that might make them money in the future. New hires that aren’t put on Fortnite or UE5 probably have a high opportunity cost in their business model.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

True, but I would have thought they would be able to see the value in the future investment of the platform.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I like the idea of competition, but there is no excuse for the Epic Game Store being so awful. It could have been rebuilt from the ground up many times over in the years since it launched. It’s abundantly clear that Sweeney has no intention of improving it or giving consumers the features they actually want.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How hard is it to simply show a rough estimate of how much storage space a game will need before downloading? I'm not talking groundbreaking stuff here...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Clearly you ask for too much.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Can you imagine if the CEO actually cared? Like if they opened up the store and went

SWEET JESUS FUCKING MONKEYCUNTING CHRIST THIS IS HOT GARBAGE WHO DID THIS

They'd fix it in a week.

But, likely, since it's been, like... What... 6.5 years ago? Yeah. The CEO either likes it or doesn't realize how bad it is that the only thing most people interact with is so bad that it's insulting. And that isn't even hyperbole, it is actually disrespectful that they expect consumers AND PROFESSIONALS to be okay with that.

Edit: steam competes with free and wins - epic competes with free and loses.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Better not miss if you're gonna come swing at the great. As a former Rocket League enjoyer who had Epic games shit up the game I bought BEFORE they got the rights; I say it's physically impossible for Epic to fuck far enough off, but they can fuck themselves all the way to the event horizon of off and stare whistfully at the off that cannot be fucked. Forever.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Forcing me to agree to have my data used for training AI was the final straw for me. Almost 10 years since i bought the game and they pull that shit, imagine that with any other product, you go to start your car one morning and get a popup that says that you can't drive it anymore untill you agree to be spied on. Insane.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm not fundamentally AGAINST the EGS but Epic is not a good company and saying that they have a ton of work to do is the understatement of the century.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Surely with the money they burn they could have fixed up the store by now?

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago

Well it's okay it's a new se-

Wait, 7 years you say?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago

If they're so desperate, have they tried making a competitive product?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Just povide an API and let the nerds create your launcher for free, you're obviously bad at it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

havent tried it, but lutris has epic support: https://lutris.net/games/epic-games-store/

now... is it an improvement? again no idea because I don't use epic

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

As long as it doesn't take a full minute to load any page and have 2 search bars that do different things in the game library, yes!

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I just don't see a place for it in the market. Steam is the big daddy DRM store. GOG is the old school DRM-free store. Itch is the small time indie dev store. Epic will never be a general storefront like one of the above. The only reason to use Epic is to play one of their exclusive games, and in that case they're no different from any company that refuses to multiplat their games. Blizzard selling their games on the Blizzard store or Nintendo selling their games on the Nintendo store. It just comes down to wanting a larger cut of the sales, instead of paying someone else to use their storefront.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

The only reason to use Epic is to play one of their exclusive games

Don't forget we also kindly accept the embers of the cash burnt through free weekly giveaways.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It just comes down to wanting a larger cut of the sales

I think it's more about advertising. The launcher for these companies could be super simple but instead it's a fuckin billboard with rampant pop-up notifications.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also even if you install these launchers for the one game that forces it and never touch them again, they’re still sitting quietly in the background uploading and selling all your usage information and browser history and gaming history.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They released EGS Android game store without a library view, still none. They're really bad at making a good first impression. PC it's been 7 years. 7 years of bad impressions

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

They released EGS Android game store without a library view, still none.

WTF, you're right. I'm actually in shock. Just, how? How do you not have a way to view purchased content? That's App Store 101.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Only person in my circle who used EGS for anything, had their card cancelled by their bank the next day for suspicious activity

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Sucks to suck.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Make small admission to hide a bit trick.

They never care about having a good video game store, they want a good frontend for Fortnite.

Epic is eyeing Roblox: any good game made, no matter where it is sold, will become endlessly cloned in Roblox... almost all the money spend in Roblox, remain in Roblox.

A good game in Epic Game Store? Soon or later it will go on Steam, and Epic will lose some potential money, will go on PSN, and Epic will lose some potential money, will go on Xbox Store and, you guessed, Epic will lose some potential money.

They are pushing hard for artist and coder to get stuck in the Fortnite "Roblox Wannabe" metaverse; that's their only true goal. Lure developer, trap developers (I would say "Roblox lure child, trap child", but it sound excessively weird)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Well they released a crappy store to compete in a market with well made products and services. Oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago

That all-important eighth mover advantage that they teach in business school

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