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Marci Shore (Historian) has left states and is now in Canada to begin teaching in fall. Great read.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Fleeing the US to Canada feels a bit like fleeing Nazi Germany to Poland in the early 1930's. I hope it doesn't end up that way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Ending political alliances with the US, while allowing the same Wall Street profiteers to continue pilfering Canadian institutions, really shows a total ignorance of why things are so bad in US politics. Like a puppeteer play acting an argument between his left and right hands.

Nice symbolic move, but you still need to drive out the corporatists destroying your housing and healthcare. Plus this article is manufacturing consent for war profiteers who want to keep up the proxy war enriching Canadian weapons manufacturers, so it rings pretty hollow.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Shore says she's devastated that she can no longer rely on her country to defend democracy. As a scholar who has studied the arc of fascism in Eastern Europe, she saw the red flags waving well ahead of many others.

Doesn't the US have a pretty well documented record of undermining/destabilizing/overthrowing governments to further its own interests?

I think it's fair to say that the current US president no longer regards Canada as an ally, but I'm not sure they could ever be relied on to defend democracy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

The US idea of democracy is the same one that we see in Starship Troopers and Helldivers.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

I mean they've been fucking with us for years, it's just finally being done in an open way that can be understood by enough people to affect change.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If this was happening in a country with any natural resource the US wanted, the US would have invaded in the name of saving democracy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

American's idea of Democracy is "Its beautiful when I win, Its rigged when the bad guys win"

and regardless of who wins, the power and money must flow upward

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I fully expect the US to invade ~~the oil sands~~ Alberta if their independence referendum gets anything close to 50%.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Make no mistake, Trunps talk on the “arbitray border” means he has his eye on southern Ontario where all the Canadian car plants & factories are.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Agreed. We are no longer the us governments ally by their choices.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The important difference this historian highlights between fascism now and fascism before is that the violence and henious behaviour was hidden and every effort was spent to hide it, the lies crafted to bend the truth in intelligent ways to front a consistent alternate truth.

Today, that alternate truth is not only completely detached from reality but changing frequently from one thing to another, the number of lies and henious actions that have been widely publicized are of such number that most people cannot track it anymore, leading to a paralysis, a nihilism, or a belief that nothing is true (which is the goal of the people flooding the zone with obvious lies and crimes).

The people that were supposed to have protected the US from it (Congress, the Supreme Court, federal agencies, the media, lawyers, community elders, state and local politicians, educational institutions, major corporations) have been hollowed out over decades, leading to this situation where the honest ones are in positions of minimal power, and the ones with power stand to gain from post-truth fascist corruption.

The antidote is to establish the ground truth with the people around you, to lower the level of powerlessness that arises solely from uncertainty and chaos. A robust long term solution will be electoral reform, for example so that a consesus of various viewpoints lead to government than having to select between two hegemonies of disparate ideas.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Interesting. If we get enough prominent anti-US immigrants, that might help kick the brainwashing. That said I'm afraid even many of their left-of-centre folks have some economic beliefs that would move Canada further on the same track which the US is on.