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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

By not giving them any rights even though complex expression through language implies a high level of intelligence and sapience. The dog and cat that you can talk to are still considered your property that you can just take to the vet and put down. Animal shelters can now just tell the animals their kill dates so they don't get too hopeful. Slaughterhouses will be filled with screams you understand instead of just screams. Cosmetic companies and labs can now ask their test subjects for the level of pain while smearing makeup in their eyes. Sea World, zoos, circuses, etc would make peak profits now that they can address their slaves as if they were human slaves.

I mean, all humans can communicate with each other and we still don't give rights to some of them. Anyone who thinks we'll be nice to animals just because they can talk is either a child or otherwise doesn't know how humans operate.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

There are some things people should not know, and I agree that the pain threshold and communication of forced euthanization and slavery of animals will be a game changer. Thanks for this analysis

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

By telling them lies just to complete some experiments

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

use them as insults.
"wow you eat like a pig"
{๐Ÿท|???} "and thats a problem why?"

also tell them how we treat them and see them as lesser beings compared to us.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Ask for consent.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

We would make it too complicated. Almost all animals are in survival mode. Some that have free time could understand limited concepts. It would be easier to setup commerce with some corvids for example but not to keep them out of the corn fields. Dogs would have a lot more anxiety and cats wouldn't change much.

[โ€“] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Considering that negotiating with livestock would be a hassle, probably just pretend we can't understand them

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not like we can't understand the screams and cries from livestock right now already...

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but the living ones are not asking "hooman, what happened to Stacy?"

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cows are known to cry and wail when their calves are taken and killed.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

TIL, I thought we usually kill the older animals first.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Dairy cows are impregnated around 7 times so they can be milked. Most of their calves are used for veal.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

the vast majority of calves do not become veal

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

...while still listening to everything they say in order to control them more efficiently.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sounds like a good premise for a scifi story.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

sounds like a good premise for a tech company.

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Telling them that man is the image of god and they are inferior beings created for man to subjugate.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I think I've seen this anime

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Advertising specific to animals blasting all the time everywhere

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Would they have any money to buy anything?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

If ee could talk to them we would give them money to buy their food in exchange for more obedience and convenience.

We could probably get some of them to participate in basic farm labour and keep some of them in check.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Spend hours trying educated them democracy and war and watch them break into faction to murder each other

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well you shouldn't waste the meat left on the battlefield right?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This'd be great since it's a whole lot less morally compromising when it wasn't even us bumping them off.