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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If a software is not important, why would I pay for it?

If a software is important, maybe I could pay for it.

If a software is REALLY IMPORTANT, then I have no choice but to keep using it, at which point I can't possibly subject myself to the long term risk associated with a licensed piece of software. A free software is the only viable option.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Our country runs off the buying and selling of nonsense. If we truly want to make America great again, we've got to get back to work, doing things that make fucking sense, not that revolve around the billionaires' cock. These rich idiots have cornered the market that anything that actually makes sense never makes it to the surface. All the ideas that make it to our plate are nothing but coke-induced delusional garbage from out of touch clowns. They always say it can never be done. But if you look back in the day like I say the Cold War era, we did make it to the moon, but now we can't even tie our shoes. We're running on fumes the billionaire leaning over to smell his own brand, wafting in his own essence of nonsense. Like I'm not a military boy, but if you look into the whole issue with the military and the right to repair I mean all these people that toot the horn of stupidity are gonna get fucked too Like we won't be able to win a war because we can't afford it because the private companies won't let us repair our own equipment. I mean that's some dumb fuckery cuckery. Things have gotten so absurd that you don't even need to appeal to morals, but just use juxtaposition and point out contradiction. Like we're so far gone.

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[–] [email protected] 190 points 1 day ago (11 children)

I don't see how that's a "boomer" complaint lol I'm a millennial and don't know anyone that's excited to pay monthly fees for something they already bought

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Yeah. The subscription model really only took off during GenZ.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

not only that, but people usually use boomer, in this context, to say that the complaint is stupid, or selfish, or something

the gradual loss of ownership is a real fucking issue

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Not even just software. Fucking everything. They are making car options a subscription.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This is my fear with dish and clothes washers manufacturers wanting to have wifi built into them. They've already gotten people used to using clothes and dish detergent in the form of little pods. I think appliance manufacturers look at printer companies and their ink prices and want a piece of that action. They want to play the same game. I'm sure Whirlpool would love it if you could only buy laundry detergent from them.

But in order to do that, they need to have their devices be internet-enabled. The printer companies figured this out. Third party ink manufacturers figure out ways to get past manufacturer lock-outs. So printers need to be internet enabled to allow patches that will disable new third party ink cartridges.

In my opinion, this is the real reason we see so many manufacturers trying to shove IoT and wifi connections into home appliances. Sure, selling your data to data brokers is a nice minor revenue stream. But the real prize is using that wifi to lock you in to buying obscenely expensive consumables for your dish washer, clothes washer, etc. Even fridges are at risk of this due to the water filters that many fridges have built in to them. Same with dryers.

The manufacturers of major appliances are pushing like crazy to connect these things to the net. Their official line is that they want this for consumer-friendly reasons. Most cynics say it's just a way to sell your data. I however think the real goal is to turn every home appliance into a vendor-locked piece of garbage that requires consumables priced like printer ink.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

If they make a washing machine that requires a subscription to their pods, I will switch to washing my clothes in a bucket using the cheapest detergent Aldi have.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Great point of view and yet another strong reason not to just allow internet connections on every damn thing. One other huge reason - being forced to accept brand new (legally binding!) licensing agreements, long after the device has been paid for and installed.

Roku was in the news somewhat recently for auto-installing an update that required users to accept a new license agreement to continue to use the device they'd paid for and had been using up until that point. And that license wasn't a trivial change, it required the user to agree to forced arbitration!

In other words, in a very real sense, they came into the house and modified the TV (not just the cheap little streaming devices), then turned around and said "Want to keep using this thing you've made a part of your daily life? That you already paid us for? Well, fine you can, but - we don't want any of you to ever sue us, so agree not to or fuck you. Don't think too hard about it, it's your TV, just say yes and get on with it".

Wild stuff! And I guarantee it gets worse before it gets better. We need high quality FOSS hardware badly, I really hope we see that start to take off in a bigger way. I'm not super optimistic though, hardware being just a lot harder to iterate on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I ever end up in a situation where I can only get 'smart' appliances, I'll just start washing my laundry at a lake or something.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Fuck it, if they do this I'll go stinky as a protest. I'll stink so bad that the politicians will be forced to regulate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You're nearly there already! 🤢

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

Only nearly? Shit, I really gotta put my back into it, then!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

They are making car options a subscription.

They're making money on this too, regardless of if you subscribe.

BMW announces that heated seats will be available in their cars with a subscription model. That's to say, you buy your car "without" heated seats, and then for when you need it, you can just pay a subscription to "unlock" it for as long as you need. Once summer comes, you can stop.

Caveats:

  1. BMW saves money by streamlining their production process. By removing the option to select heated or unheated seats, they're making production easier and subsequently cheaper.
  2. They're still fucking charging you for those seats. It's not like they're going to give away heated seats for free and bank on people using that subscription to recoup the costs. You already pay the full prices for those heated seats, and then they charge you extra while trying to phrase it like you're coming out on top on this deal.
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Looking at you, Adobe. Creative cloud has sucked so much from me, but I need it for work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

I remember back in the day the year 2000 something I was willing to pay like fucking $400 for that shit, but I kept it forever. Now, I just question why I even bother with a with Photoshop. Wait a second, I don't. I'm a man. I use gimp. Most of the features they offer are fucking stupid. Art and design is subtle and it is made for humans by Humans. I think these fucking ad agencies are gonna have to learn the hard way. Not that the herd is going to all of a sudden be a bunch of badass punk rockers, but people are just not going to be susceptible to it anymore. And then where do they go? I look at advertising nowadays and it's just so gross and unappealing. And like, I have a hair trigger. Like, everything I am experiencing, I know is somehow a fucking lie. I move slower nowadays with my purchases and usually some form of verification like a human being is needed for me to buy. And just a side note, I use to think people that were suck asses and just, you know, tooted the horn of corporate America acted like robots. And I think it's kind of funny that they're being replaced with robots. like you're a tool and now you're being replaced by a tool. The whole model really is just lower the bar and shoehorn in nonsense. lowest common denominator thinking and when they corner the market who else are you gonna go to or just give up on it entirely and say fuck it ...I hate suck asses. They're nothing but a bunch of goddamn phonies.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If that's a boomer complaint then hell yes I'm a fucking boomer! Fuck your subscription!

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

meanwhile, companies are killing lifetime licenses that were previously paid for.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Yep I remember clearly the first time this happened to me with Splashtop Remote in like 2012. And more recently 4K video downloader. "4K video downloader is being deprecated, please upgrade to our new application, 4K video downloader" Literally only difference is my lifetime license is no longer good and I'd have to buy a subscription.

Well, too bad there are easier ways to download content and even if there wasn't you have made sure I will never get anywhere near your products ever again.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

This is why FOSS with donation is actually a superior model.

I honestly rather download a free software and donate after I know that it’s good and I’ll know that I’ll always have access to it.

Paying for something that can be revoked (cause it’s a legally license, not owned) just doesn’t sound like ownership.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You will own nothing, eat grubs, and be thankful...

~ the oligarchs

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

As much as I loathe capitalism, I will be happy about the grubs, ribbit ribbit.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Welcome to Rent Based Economy, peasants.

Perpetual debt. As planned.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's like you don't get the idea at all!

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Do kids these days think boomers are 20yo?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (4 children)

All kids think anyone older than them is a boomer. Actual boomers think all kids are millennials. Millennials can't catch a fucking break at either end.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

piracy my dudes. stop giving them money altogether.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Protest with your wallet. Open source and self hosted communities living real chill right now.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago

Seeing a subscription actually makes my decision easy. I see it and immediately know to avoid.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Boomer complaint? Why can't I smoke an after dinner cigarette at the restaurant in peace without people whining at me to get up and go outside? And what is it with all this "rap music" on the radio? I'll rather take Chet Baker any day of the week.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Supermarket chain Kroger announced today that they are switching to a subscription model for grocery purchases. “Customers will no longer be allowed to buy groceries directly, but will now be requested to log in using their account in order to complete purchases.”

“Moving to a subscription model will help us to streamline operations, cut costs and continue to provide our customers with prices.” according to the Kroger CAI’s quarterly filing with Wall St.

“At the self-checkout, after scanning your groceries, simply login with your e-mail address and 64 character password. You will then receive a text with your 128 digit verification code, which you can type in manually at the 3rd numeric keypad. If you attempt to purchase more than your subscription level, you’ll be guided on how to restock the excess items.”

Kroger says grocery plans will start at $5/day, which will enable customers to treat themselves to a daily ration of either 1 lb of cabbage or 1 lb of potatoes.

Please note that customers must create a unique account for each Kroger location. “Customer loyalty is very important to us.” said a Kroger representative, who then offered this reporter an opportunity to invest in a pre-public release of Kroger Koin.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Had me eating the onion until the third paragraph

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (12 children)

How is that a boomer complaint? It’s basic. Microsoft Word should be buy once for 3 computers, as it always was until subs took over.

We can’t even read the news anymore without a sub.

I like the use of the word rent for this.

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