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[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, and OnePlus, are exploring the possibility of developing versions of the Android operating system that do not rely on Google Mobile Services (GMS).

Clickbait title. They're rumored to fork Android which will still just be Android without the Google suite.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Huawei has already produced an OS which is not a fork of Android.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Meh, that is just changing one tech giant for another. Both spy on you completely. It is not like either will be better for the consumer.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Phones will still use android, but manufacturers are looking to de-google android so it's not as heavily reliant on google services.

A example is the removal of the required Google play store.

Laptop manufacturers are also looking to move away from windows to a linux bases operating system.

TBH this is the best news I have heard all week.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'd be great with that. I don't want Google on my phone.

Also I'm looking for a new laptop in the coming years and there's no way I'm putting Windows on it. I've been poking around and there are actually a lot of options for Linux laptops now!

I'm very happy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Laptop manufacturers are also looking to move away from windows to a linux bases operating system.

Redstar OS it is πŸ˜‰

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Its not about Google services, its because the US government may prohibit foreign manufacturers from using Android.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Don't sleep on Google Services.

If you're not an iPhone user, those "services" are what keeps Google from killing Android entirely. Waaaayyyy too much data collection to just brush your shoulders off over.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Laptop manufacturers are also looking to move away from windows to a linux bases operating system.

Lol. Good luck on that. Because for one, it's not true at all. The general public is and has been brought up with Windows. Ignoring how incredibly difficult it is to get folks used to an OS, let's take a moment to imagine how painful it would be to get people used to an OS that doesn't hold your hand for you.

Linux has it's place. But it will never replace Windows. Even if MS went backrupt and closed shop, Linux is not ever gonna be the next go-to OS.

Linux is doing what it's always done.

It's being amazing in it's space as-is and it's simply existing and being useful. Trying to push Linux onto the mainstream is never gonna happen without overhauling and changing what makes Linux amazing to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Chromebooks have entered the chat

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago

Shift away from ~~Android~~ Google

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

Just for the record, every single company that is selling a phone in China (this includes Samsung) is already running a degoogled fork of android

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Problem is, we'll be getting even worse spyware with the backing of the Chinese government.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Call me what you will, but I would prefer my data goes to china over the current administration.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

How about nobody gets your data 🐸

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In this parallel universe? You have better chances of finding a way to go to another one AND convince your counterpart to switch places so they will be here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

You can limit the attack surface at least

JFC these pedons ain't got a shred of fighting spirit left in them

Just fucking lay down and take it then 🀑

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That would be cool, but I doubt that would be a reality without either dropping tech completely or investing a shit ton of time learning to create a fully local and secured setup.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In thus context any degoogled set up would work.

Obviously something with a locked bootloader is best

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Thanks for the advice, I'll take a look into that and see what it entails.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Lol, so you were fine with Google spying with all the prior administrations back to 2000...

There is some strong evidence that Google was created with strong ties to the NSA... During the Clinton administration. You were OK with that?

That would be saying you were OK with the creation of this spying behemoth because it was under an admin you agreed with.

I'm not OK with it, regardless of which admin it was. It's not a good thing, and at a minimum violates the spirit of law.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Damn, that was a ton of assumptions off of one sentence. I just feel like there is a lot more realistic risk in personal data going to a government I live under than one I don't.

Also, I think you are aware that this administration operates a bit differently than previous ones.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm worried about Chinese mobile OSes intentionally designed to make it difficult for VPN apps to work, and companies would just give up trying to design a separate app for the Chinese market, which reinforces a tighter grip on censorship.

Not to mention, all the other FOSS tools that would no longer work if they make android .apks incompatible, including a lot of encryption apps.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

and companies would just give up trying to design a separate app for the Chinese market

I'm not so sure about that. Some of these brands (and their sub-brands) enjoy significant market share outside of China. I suspect it would be in their financial interests to continue to maintain "global" versions.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Lineage OS maybe?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Good. Been looking for a reason to not use a smartphone. I'd rather piss glass than use iOS