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[–] [email protected] 54 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Hey Mozilla, here's a hint: nobody likes AI.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hey Mozilla, if we wanted ai, we would use chrome

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

I have no issue with AI

Just stop with the useless integrations. I don't need AI on every single thing. I would much rather have something lighter weight.

Firefox translations are cool but that's about it from a usefulness perspective

[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 days ago (2 children)

We heard you like AI

...did you? Did you really?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"We heard investors like AI"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

That's not the actual title of the article...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago

You heard wrong.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nobody really likes AI other than it being a gimmick that you cant really trust in the first place since it might halucinate. So since youbhave to check everything it says in the first place youbcould just do whatever it does in the first place without wasting resources for calculation

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

you would be surprised how many believe most things an AI says. I would think its rougly the same userbase that can't tell the differences between firefox and chrome even in generalities, other than its looks. "the consumerbase"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

this comment might come off as me thinking they are stupid, but I think for the most part they are just endlessly ignorant

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fair, but if you are this, pardon, stupid, then you would be unable to handle proper information anyways.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

lots of people already fail to verify what they read online. that's modern society I'm afraid. but I guess it's not something new, probably you have also heard of the misconception "they said it on TV so it must be true!"

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Mozilla leadership sure has gone down the drain.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

its been a while

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Kinda shit that happens when a non profit is concerned with offering a competitive salary to CEOs with MBAs

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago

jwz » Mozilla's Original Sin

In my humble but correct opinion, Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:

  1. Building THE reference implementation web browser, and
  2. Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.
  3. There is no 3.
[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago

Arc has a similar feature, but last I checked it used ChatGPT. Firefox runs a local model, so it avoids the privacy issue.

I have no problem with this in principle. The question is, does it suck? Document summary is a use case LLMs are well suited for, but it's still highly application-specific. I've seen great summarizers and I've seen garbage summarizers. Hopefully Mozilla's implementation is not as lazy as most others.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago

The feature looks like absolute shit. Their supposed use-case is "you opened a bunch of tabs and none of them have what you need" and yet they expect you instead to sit there with your mouse hovering over a link, while holding a shortcut on the keyboard, waiting for the AI summary to finish loading? That would slow you down about 10x versus just opening all the links and looking at the page?

If they wanted link previews, why didn't they just prefetch the page and render it normally in a preview thumbnail like the ones that you now get when hovering over an open tab?

Mindless shoe-horning of AI into the product to check some kind of box for the overpaid C-suite. For shame.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

By all accounts, this sucks.

I tried the link preview feature on a link to the English Wikipedia article about Touhou Project, and the LLM's key points are just hilariously bad. For some reason it's focusing too much on the PS4 and Nintendo Switch (which the LLM "thinks" were both released on August 15, 1997). I have a screenshot 6 days ago when it wasn't a Firefox Labs feature yet in my Misskey:

https://makai.chaotic.ninja/notes/a6d86p8n26

Tried it today in an updated Nightly and the key points are still the same lol.

Source

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

To activate a Link Preview, hover over a link and press Shift (⇧) plus Alt (Option ⌥ on macOS),

Thanks god it's not default.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's so slow it'd probably be faster to just click the link and glance it over yourself.
Maybe there's good uses for local LLMs in a browser but this feature here is one lame gimmick

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Please no… I hope it can be disabled.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

I'm pretty sure they are doing this to try win over chrome users

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I actually don't think the idea is terrible, but judging from other local AI Firefox stuff (translation for example) it's probably pretty bad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Yes!! AI. AI.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Horray I guess

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