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[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 minutes ago

Do you think Trump, Musk and their oligarch insider friends maybe, just maybe, opened short positions on a bunch of stock ahead of the new tariff announcement?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 18 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

I was considering trying to cash out my 401k and ira in the US (I bought my first house and I think that's one of the allowed cases), but hadn't worked out the details yet. Guess that's not happening right now. I no longer live in the US and will probably renounce citizenship once my parents go.

I looked at my other investments this morning based on this post and.... Lol. Granted, I only one a handful, but it still hurts. My stock that was worth only like 40 cents moved up 5+% so yay for that, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Yes and the same last month, and the month before.

Do some paper trading when he does this. See how much money you could make if you buy who he is fucking just to turn it around the week after.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

To be fair, the market is roughly at where it was in September (pending further tanking). So, not a huge difference...yet.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Got my family out last year, I commute back and forth.

There is something really sick about watching this from overseas, like watching paramedics carry bodies out of a car crash.

But it was no fun when I was there.

Fucking morons shooting themselves in the balls to look tough.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago

I've only been twice in the last decade: once the year after I moved and summer 2022ish. It's just crazy to watch. My family just offered to pay for us to fly out for vacation but I declined. My non-white wife that doesn't really speek English + immigration now means we're not going near the place.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

What happens to your 401k and IRA if you've moved abroad and renounce your citizenship? Will it ever be paid out?

Not an American so I honestly don't know.

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[–] [email protected] 106 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

He inherited a growing economy, a healthy stock market and low unemployment. He has undone all 3. Power move!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 34 minutes ago

And he was very quick about it. I have never seen anyone deal so artfully before. /s

[–] [email protected] 17 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Be fair, it did take a long time to undo all that...
He's been back in office an astonishing two months. That's a lifetime!!

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

My 401k today is $520 less than what it was Jan 21st. I put in almost $600 every 2 weeks.

That's a good chunk of change that just disappeared. I can only imagine how much someone with a bigger retirement account than I have is hurting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 27 minutes ago

It disappeared now. When COVID hit I upped my contribution just to max out when the market was at a low.

The only way for the 401k to disappear entirely is if the entire economy is royally, never before seen fucked and completely collapses. At that point retirement if probably not a possibility anyways.

Any other situation you're essentially 'buying the dip' and will see the returns years from now. Although if you're looking to retire anytime in the near future it will likely be a huge hit on what you can take out.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Switching from pensions to 401ks was one of the greatest swindles of the 20th century.

It's funny seeing how this generation grasps for morsels. Big reason why I don't respect ya'll.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 50 minutes ago

Looking at your comment history, you're an idiot lol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Meh I went through the same shit in 03, 08 and Covid. It hurts but keep depositing and/or increase your contribution. Your future self will thank you.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 12 hours ago

I sometimes wonder if this time is a bit different, but we'll see. I don't know what qualifies as a safe harbor if donvict's wrecking crew end up destroying the entire fabric of why people invest in the U.S.

Meaning, the dotcom bubble, the early 90s recession, the 08 real estate bubble, the gigantic V that was early covid....those all still had a government that was looking to sustain most or all of our institutions.

Donvict and his crazy Project 2025/fElon dogebags are running around and ripping out the very infrastructure...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 13 hours ago

Oh I'm not stopping. Just pointing out how this is hurting people's retirement.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

And yet people still felt the need to vote for him

I'll never understand this country....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Lack of education, bo lack of racism

[–] [email protected] 10 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

And people still thinks he is playing some sort of 4D chess. My friend in Georgia mentioned that people around her says Trump is creating a dip, so that federal reserve will lower interest rate.

Yes, because president can fire tons fedral workers, can send secret police to abduct people, but cannot control the federal reserve, and have to play stagnation or bust.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

One of the talking heads on one of those business news shows summed up the theory about lowering interests rates as "it's like burning down the house to cook a steak."

There's no plan here, it's just a deranged old man surrounded by sycophants doing all of the things people previously told him wouldn't work.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago

Racism.

The south started a war and killed 600k Americans for racism.

It's all some of them care about, it's their alpha and omega.

[–] [email protected] 97 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

The trump regime was designed to TANK the US economy so that stocks, businesses, and industries can be bought by billionaires at rock bottom prices.

All is going according to plan.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Its Russia in the 90s all over again. Must be a coincidence that the Russian mafia-turned-regime they're so chummy with, got its foot in the door and secured its power through an almost identical move.

Im wondering if America will have its equivalent of the 1999 Apartment bombings.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

No, that wasn't the point.

There were 2 goals:

  1. Cut spending to 0 so they could cut taxes (cap gains to 0)

  2. Isolate the US from the rest of the world, this is what Putin cares about the absolute most. If we're out of the way he sees Russia as unstoppable (which is stupid, they can't beat any country with functioning tractors).

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

His MAGA fans likely don't have anything in the market, or they don't think they do, so they think this won't affect them. They are in for a rude awakening.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 12 hours ago

Yep. The market is a lot like politics that way.

You might not take an interest in markets, but markets take an interest in YOU.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 16 hours ago

No they are all over invested in the market. The techbros. The effective altruists. The boomers and anyone wealthy. They voted for Trump to pump their bags and dont care about anything else. Only the dirt poor maga aren’t baws deep.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 15 hours ago

They voted for this. We all have to be onboard for the crash.

[–] [email protected] 116 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 85 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

This is apparently a fake tweet. An archive of the actual tweet corresponding to that datetime is here.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago

Thanks, though correct grammar kind of gave it away already.

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[–] [email protected] 160 points 22 hours ago (14 children)

Time for the rich to buy stocks on discount.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Assuming the US can recover...

[–] [email protected] 62 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

Normally Trump does what's best for the ultra wealthy, but de-dollarization of the world economy appears to be good for nobody in the USA. I have no clue what they're trying to do, I suspect he's just lost it and there's nobody left to tell him these tariffs hurt his croneys too.

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if we're already too far along to save the dollar's position globally. Globally that's probably a good thing, but for any of us in the US it's decidely not.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

I have no clue what they're trying to do

They published it online. project 2025. They straight up told you what they're going to do. Add in pooty, whose goals align a great deal, and that's it. How do people still not get this, they told you what they're doing.

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