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I'm refinancing this terrible loan and the bank person grimaced when they saw this.

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[–] [email protected] 126 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was sold a car with a 14% interest rate after being told I wouldnt be charged for interest if I paid it off in the first month, so I could pay it off when my CD popped that week. The bank then told me that I had to wait to pay it off until it "appeared in their systems". Turns out that happened right when interest ticked! Funny how that works

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

I seriously pray every single day that nuclear war breaks out or that a fucking astroid just hits me right on my head when I'm on the way to my car.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Interest rates above like 10% should be illegal.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wait until you see the payday loan usury rates!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've gotten mail that have checks that you can immediately deposit if you're in a pinch, but when you need to pay it back the APR on them is 89% 💀

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 week ago (3 children)

hey millenials: car dealers are not a good choice of bank. please tell your generation about credit unions: https://www.logixbanking.com/rates/vehicle-loans

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago

And maybe buying something that isnt sold by a dealer....

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 week ago (15 children)

As a non-American it seems wild to me that you would take out a loan for a car.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

As a European it seems wild to me that my peers would pay a loan for a car. But they do. That's crazy...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

"American" here. We are obsessed with financing depreciable assets.

We are also obsessed with appearances and status.

I'm sure you can see from this thread some of us cannot comprehend driving a $5000 car. They will whine and come up with tons of excuses for why that just cannot happen.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I cannot comprehend owning a $5000 car.

That's insane that some people have up to 5k to spend.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

We don’t - hence the loan

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I bought my 2008 Toyota Sienna for $4500. I talked him down from $4900.

It had:

  • 230k miles (269k now)
  • an engine replacement (2010 engine with 110k miles, replaced at 201k on chassis)
  • severely worn out sliding door rear hinges, bad enough to be grinding the body under the 3rd row windows down to bare metal
  • broken power steering rack (found that a few weeks later)
  • balding tires
  • rattle-can patch job (black paint on factory black paint, not a deal-breaker for me)
  • blown out rear shocks
  • more that I've forgotten (noted down in my records)

I bought that van because 1) it was a really good price, 2) engine and transmission are in really good shape, 3) rust-free, and 4) I knew what most of its issues were before I bought it and was able to fix it all in my garage.

Also, I have 5 kids, so the minivan was a necessity. $5000 is the bare minimum for a family car these days.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Where are you that cars are affordable to a point where this is an usual thing?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

Yeah, u buy a used one for like 2,000 - 3,000€. Or you lease. But taking on a loan with 16.9% interest would not cross my mind.

If i cant afford a car, then i aint buyin one.

(This post was presented to you by "living in a livable city" Gang)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

it's extremely rare to find such a cheap used car. my partner spent $8k on one that lasted a year. also, you might be surprised to learn that driving isn't optional in most of the US - it's literally impossible to live without a car. I live in a suburb. it's several miles of dangerous roads to get to a grocery store. there is no nearby public transit. even large cities like LA were completely designed around cars. zoning and urban planning here completely screwed us.

yes, it sucks, yes I'm aware, yes I'd love to live in a walkable European city with commuter rail and cafes on the street corner, no I don't have a choice.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Buy the car you can afford. If you can't buy it outright or make a significant down payment (20-30%), don't take out a loan, look for a cheaper option. Those interest rates are insane, I'm amazed how anyone would accept them.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Americans are bad with money.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Country is car centric. You can not live here without a car. It’s next to impossible. Especially for the handicapped. They can’t get anywhere easily without personal transportation. We suck at mass transit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

And if your handicap is the vision test you’re just stuck

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Is cash for a beater car no longer an option? I don't want to be a "less avocado toast more bootstraps" person but a loan for a used car sounds wild to me. Maybe I'm out of touch. My vehicle is old enough to drink

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Cars have been expensive for a few years now, bought an 08 Subaru in 2020, it's worth more now than what I bought it for.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I paid 1k for my shitty pickup in 2018, it's in worse condition than when I got it, and about 100,000 more miles on it.

It's supposedly worth 3500 now. It needs about $300 worth in parts alone to get it into what I would consider a condition worth buying.

I don't understand.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Shit, a working pickup? Could probably get people to bid on that and make more. New pickups are absurdly expensive

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

I have a good '08 car that I bought with cash 10 years ago for $3000. I got it from a guy who exclusively sells and fixes this model of car. I went back last year to get my car fixed and looked at the cars he was selling. '08s were starting at $5000.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Not often. Used cars, at least where I am, are all pretty pricey, and with rent and shit being out of control, I'm not surprised younger people can't afford to save enough to buy one outright. I'm lucky to be older and I bought my current car at 0% interest in 2012. I'm keeping it until it gives up because I know we'll never see that kind of deal again.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Cash for clunkers removed a significant portion of the used cars from the market. It was a while ago but its effects are still very much being felt even if people don't realize exactly what it is.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

there are a lot of used ~2018 to 2022 cars on the market with not a lot of miles, most go for around $20k (like what I got). True beaters still go for like $10k.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

I would strongly advise against drinking your vehicle regardless of how old it is.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Personally, I agree with your mindset, but I'm pretty handy with fixing/maintaining my own vehicles. For someone needing something to reliably get back and forth to work/school/daycare, I understand why people don't go this route. Shop lead times have skyrocketed in the last few years, as have repair prices. Sometimes you just need something you don't have to worry about.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

a loan for a used car sounds wild to me.

Predatory car loans has entered the chat.

I don't know about Carvana, but plenty of scummy dealers will give insane rates to people with no credit check, repo the car while they're still underwater on the loan, and sell it to someone else. You can have two or three people paying off the same car.

Oh, also, they somehow encourage the most gullible people who can't afford their loans to just let the car get reposessed instead of attempting to sell it back to the dealer.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

Check with and get pre-approval from a credit union or two near you. Go with that pre-approval for the car you want.

Rarely do the dealers find or provide a better deal. DON'T let them focus you on your monthly payment. Look at the complete picture.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Carvana is a sister company of drivetime. Drivetime's target customer base is sub-prime. Putting 2 and 2 together, this doesn't surprise me at all. Their lowest interest rate might be 16% (for their target customer base) and goes upwards of 30%

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Wait until you hear about mortgage in Russia

26% APR. On a mortgage. No, seriously.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yep, that's what I'm doing. They're offering 7% with EXACTLY THE SAME PARAMETERS AS CARVANA.

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