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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

No, no price mentioned yet. Before anyone asks.

edit: found some prices on the official stores

$449 (499 w/ MKW)

£395 (430 w/ MKW)

€470 (510 w/ MKW)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

Welp, this prices me out on principle alone. £75 for physical games in absolutely bonkers. Then they want you to pay extra so that BTOW/TOTK can take advantage of the new hardware. Not to mention their tech demo isn't exactly free either.

Aside from all that, £395 for the console seemed pretty fair to me. I expected it to be a little higher honestly. Just everything else on the side is asking for too much.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Not sure about elsewhere but there’s a price on the UK official store: £395.99 for the system. £429.99 including digital copy of MKW.

Preorders open on 8th April.

Edit: Physical copy of Mario Kart on its own is £74.99. Woof.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I added the prices based on the official stores

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The price floating around seems to be $449 for the system. Not officially announced though.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yikes. I think I’m going to pass for now at that price. Honestly the only game that interested me in that entire showcase was the Donkey Kong platformer where you go around smashing the fuck out of shit, but I’m not about to drop half a grand to play it.

I feel even less excited about the idea of buying this system than I did the Wii U. The scalpers can have at this one. I’ll consider it down the line when there’s more software that looks worthwhile.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Yeah its a bit much, but what they are offering is somewhere between the PS4 Pro / PS5 now in terms of performance when docked so I don't think its necessarily over the top with their MSRP.

My biggest turn off so far is paying that, then having to purchase individual upgrades for SELECT switch games to transfer over seems a bit stingy. I would understand wanting money for upgrades if it wasn't just hardware performance improvements, but just let me play the old version of the game on the new console.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

just let me play the old version of the game on the new console.

I don't think you need to buy any upgrades to play the original Switch versions on Switch 2. It's supposed to be almost 100% backwards-compatible with Switch games, with a few exceptions for games that rely on specific hardware features (like IR).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the original BotW and TotK will play just fine on Switch 2 without upgrading.

Considering how poor the performance was in TotK, I really think Nintendo should have made it a free update. That's fairly common on the PlayStation side. Lots of PS4 games got free updates with PS5 optimizations, for example (and even more free updates for PS5 Pro).

I dropped TotK due partly to the performance issues. At this point I might rather play it on an emulator than buy it again for Switch 2.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Yeah, looks like I just misunderstood the marketing. For anyone else interested, here is an official list of what is supported. It seems to be only a minority that won't work.

https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/transfer-guide/compatible-games/

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Yeah, there was a bit too much "at an additional price" and "with a Nintendo Switch Online Plus account" for my liking. I get to what? Play a few GameCube games I can already play on my Steam Deck?

I'm sure they will eventually have enough games to entice me as I'm a big fan of Nintendo games since the 80's, but it's looking like I'll be okay waiting for now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

My understanding is that the upgrade packs are only if you want those performance improvements. There shouldn’t be anything preventing you from playing your old switch games as is, especially with the save data transfers and the backwards-compatible card slot. So the old version should still be playable!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Yep, I definitely misunderstood. I added a link to an earlier reply with everything that supports the transfer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm a bit torn, I got a Switch first month and loved Zelda but it did take a couple years for releases to really become frequent. Eventually got a Steam Deck and now I go third party on Steam and the Switch has been a Zelda machine. That being how my purchases have been, I may wait until a new Zelda before buying a Switch 2. Maybe not until a fully exclusive Switch 2 Pokemon. Right now hoping for the inevitable PC handheld that is as strong as a Deck but way lighter/smaller

Friends and Mario Kart+Mario Party will be the final determiner of when I guess

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

But most importantly: Silksong was confirmed for this year!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Remember when they said it would be out within 12 months back in 2022?

Only 39 months later we are getting that timeline again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well I wouldn't be super shocked if there was a delay but I doubt they'd announce it on Nintendo Direct if there wasn't at least a decent chance that the timeline was realistic.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

They announced it at the Xbox showcase which was basically a direct.

I would be a little shocked if they didn't actually believe they could make this timeline since it's with the previous 4 years. Just being grumpy about how loose they have been with this title and even still the release date.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

100% real btw, they showed new footage and confirmed 2025

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

that 4K is gonna rely heavily on upscaling right? Or did nintendo finally make a powerful console?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Probably. Even Switch 1 uses naive upscaling a lot of the time. I don't think Nvidia makes any chip that don't support DLSS at this point.

I just hope we get decent frame rates in general. I don't want to deal with 30fps fake-4K.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I’d rather 100FPS+ 720p than 30FPS 4K any day.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Im just hoping the emulator comes out quick and supports 60+ fps in all games haha

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

So as someone who is basically half blind (so resolution doesn't matter) and knows about the existence of SD cards, there's basically nothing exciting about it. Cool.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So does the N64. So why did you buy the Switch?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The difference between N64 and Switch is much much much greater than the difference between Switch and Switch 2. Even the gap between Wii and Switch is greater

My point is that there's nothing innovative about the Switch 2 compared to the Switch

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It has mouse controls and a built in microphone. I think everything else is fairly incremental and the added value will depend on what’s important to different folks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Prime 4 w/ mouse controls at 120fps isn't something I was banking on before today

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'll be surprised if it really is 120 fps. Something tells me not a lot of games will run at that framerate

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

lol, this won't run 4k. Or it'll just be smeary 4k up-scaling. And I really doubt games will run 1080p 60 fps.

That or this is just using a lot of "AI" bullshit. Render at 720p 30fps and then upscale it and then use frame gen to fill in the gaps.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't think any game runs at 1080 fps 🤔

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Dang it. Good catch there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I think with Nintendo's art style 4k is possible. It won't have photo realistic 4k

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s a nivida chip, so it’s going to be 4k with DLSS. Unsure if it’s the latest transformer model or not, but either way it’ll look better than Nintendos previous upscalers

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Previous upscaler was Nvidia as well.

It's probably an Orin. It matches the die size that kopite7kimi mentioned. It's also ampere based, which makes the most sense as it would either be based on 20 or 30 series. But regardless, it's going to be cut down like they did for the switch, since battery life is the most important thing.

But no hardware in this planet can make Pokemon environments look good