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[–] [email protected] 3 points 24 minutes ago

Trumpliterally spouting hate, absurd deportation rhetoric, and insane tariffs while on the campaign.

I didn't know he would do that! ~~It wasn't supposed to ruin my life just the other Average Americanpeople!~~

Republicans are the stupidest racists on the planet, they can't even recognize when they're about to get robbed after being told they're going to get robbed by the robber.

Seeing a Hispanic Virginia citizen that voted for trump get arrested by ICE without is the full circle stupidity that I've attributed to uncle Toms and log cabinors in the past. You voted so ICE would roll up on people and just grab them off the street because you wanted to be a pick me. Well they picked you up dumbass.

It's the same shit I see when "moderates" get all surprise Pikachu faced when the "fiscal conservatives" they wanted, piss on them with trickle down economics.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

They were so happy they got to screw over everyone they disagreed with. They considered themselves apart, separate, better, than those they disagreed with. They were the Real America™, the rest of us weren't part of that. They completely overlooked the fact that, for now at least, we are all still Americans, living in the same country, under the same economy, and the same rules. So they suffer the consequences of their hubris and myopic exceptionalism.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago

TBH I'm okay with folks admitting they were lied to. Just help us fix this now.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, but don't let your self righteousness turn a budding class war back into a culture war.

If Republican voters are suddenly waking up and thinking "this isn't right" smacking them down with "this is what you voted for" is not going to help your cause.

"Yes, you're right, this shouldn't be happening and we should work together to stop it."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

"A nazi walks into a bar, and is welcomed at a table by his nine friends. How many Nazis are at the table?" Anyone who sides with fascists, even tentatively or for differing reasons, is themselves still a fascist.

The German Nazis didn't gain power purely from support of other nazis; they gained power largely from various other parties, business leaders, and wealthy elite, who thought the Nazis would be a useful tool they could use and control to their own ends. The "why" of their support is far less important than the fact of the support itself, and the fact those people were responsible for helping the Nazis commit their crimes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 59 minutes ago

There is a difference -- his nine friends can still be shown the light.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago

No one read it. There were plenty of more obvious warnings.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 18 hours ago

I'd love to here from the "project 2025 isn't real." folks right about now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

Im having a grand time pointing it out as often as possible. Oh you had to skip on lunchables because they went up this month? glad your vote is working out. Gas still the same price? wonder who is doing that now. Oh you didnt get your bonus check, due to increased business costs? I wonder why.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

No, they knew what it was. They just didn’t think it would affect them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

This right here. Dumbasses thought they were not on the list but it turns out they had just not gotten that far down the list yet.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 14 hours ago

Farmers didn’t realize they were the E in DEI

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

I never thought the leopards would eat my face!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

A lot of Rep voters approve of Project 2025. His approval isn't that low. Approval of certain policies, like tarriffs are low, but overall approval isn't. What's scary is his most evil policies (the immigration policies) have some of the highest approval.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe now (for whatever reason) republicans are more in favor of Project 2025 but during the campaign Project 2025 was quickly swept under the rug, because GOP probably knew it was so unpopular it might cost them the election.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

They felt they needed the "undecided" or "centrist" vote to win, so Trump denying he didn't know what it was, was helpful. Trump never condemned it either, he just said some of it was a little extreme, IIRC. The "undecided" or "centrist" vote is very marginal.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

It was also unpopular within the republican party. Even within MAGA it had only 30% support. It wasn't pushed out of the media to pull undecided or centrists. It was pushed out to not drive away the non-MAGA republicans. You can also compare the October poll to one of the first poll as it shows a clear trend where the more people found out about Project 2025 the less they liked it.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

after WW2 and the horrors of the Nazis came fully to light....people kept asking....how did the German people let this happen? how did they let it continue until disaster fell? how could they have allowed such cruelty and degradation to occur?

THIS was how. by not paying attention. by ignoring the growing inequities and terror going on in their midst. BY PRETENDING EVERYTHING WAS OK.

and now WE are doing the same. it's easy to ignore right now....it isn't TOO bad....not TOO many people are being affected...yet.

we need to stop ignoring and start paying attention to exactly what they are doing.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago

Why do you even assume they can even read in the first place ?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

It was never a paradox.

You just need to acknowledge that there is a limit to how tolerant the world can be. Maybe it is at 100% but there is a limit.

Then you just need to show that tolerance towards e.g. Nazism result in less tolerance than being intolerant to it.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I'm sure the millions and millions of conservatives who use Lemmy are going to read this and really rethink their positions.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'm not convinced most conservatives can read.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The situation with literacy in the USA does more to reveal exactly where and what we are far better than any other arguments about our wealth and society. We have a really big fucking problem here.

21% of adults in this country are FUNCTIONALLY ILLITERATE. This is mind-melting for the "richest nation on Earth." We have nearly a quarter of our population who know how read words as necessary to survive but cannot string together text to form coherent narratives or even pictures in their heads. They can text with emojis and monosyllables but are deeply insecure about not being able to comprehend longer paragraphs and as a result rage against notions of logic and reason and fact-checking. This is what functional illiteracy means and we've all encountered it, and this is where much of our science-denial and irrational beliefs are coming from.

https://www.thenationalliteracyinstitute.com/post/literacy-statistics-2024-2025-where-we-are-now

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[–] [email protected] 159 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (15 children)

I also blame the 90M eligible voters that abstained from the election. Think about that for a second. There were 13M more people that did nothing, than all of the people that voted for Trump.

Welcome to adulthood. Make a choice or one will be made for you. If you stand for nothing, then you’ll fall for anything.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago

And then think about how the Democrats could have campaigned those people rather than chasing Republicans by adopting anti-immigration policies and platforming people like Liz Cheney, for example.

But they didn't.

Welcome to adulthood. Establishment politicians, whether Republican or Democrat, are beholden to the rich and neoliberalism. We're even seeing this with how establishment Dems are pushing back against populist, progressive figures like Bernie Sanders and AOC in favor of Cory Booker and Chris Murphy.

AND then consider how Joe Biden is coming back from the brink of death by saying that he and Jill will build back the Democratic party, thinking that people will forget how Biden shot down Bernie's chances in 2020 or how he said he'd be a single term president, waiting until the first presidential debate with Trump months before the election to show just how fucking incompetent he is.

Maybe more people abstained from this election because the two biggest parties didn't look any different, so who cares about the outcome!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

You should really ask yourself why so many people just didn't see the point in voting.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 day ago (34 children)

Inb4 people come here to defend their self-righteousness. No, nephews. You made a stupid choice for stupid reasons, and it's time to accept your core values are obnoxious and self-centered, and then shape up.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Not only did they vote for this.

A lot a lot of them only voted for trump on the ballot and no downticket names or state questions.

They literally voted for specifically this.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The people who voted for Trump are only angry that they are being hurt. Even if they read Project 2025, they'd assume they'd be exempt and that it'd only hurt the right people.

There is no reason to engage in smug gloating to shame them into repenting or trying to gently reason with them. You shouldn't even be talking to them. You should seek to undermine them at every level possible. They need to be kneecapped.

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