EU is trying to stimulate spending. Get their GDP numbers back up.
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I'm from EU and this is way less than my country suggests, which is 2 weeks.
I actually have 2 weeks supplies, but I'm gonna eat baked beans and vegan chocolate and drink coke zero the last few days 😅
Yeah, 3 days is a joke. Do they expect a war to be over in 3 days?
It’s an estimate on how long you need to survive on your own, before the government is able to help.
I think that's very optimistic. Looking at how COVID went, I have no faith at all in people's ability to stay calm. The government isn't going to be able to help those in need 3 days in with the masses of idiots around. No way.
Well, during COVID the idea was still that things should run as normally, with a market economy and stuff. During an actual war, any sensible government would immediately take control of the distribution of food, water, energy and other essentials. Scalpers would be immediately detained, rather than to allow them to run rampant.
One would hope so, but I bet you enough people would be influenced by a Russian disinformation campaign to trigger riots on the streets because "Russia is a friend, we are the aggressors" or whatever other bullshit they come up with. Then troops would have to be pulled away from the border to deal with the riots.
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More likely they expect to be able to get support/reinforcement/aid in, within a couple of days.
It's big enough to be a useful stopgap, but small enough not to accidentally cause a run on the supermarkets. It also makes people think about it more. If they update it to 2 weeks later, people are more likely to have a feel for what they need, and what will keep.
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It is not just for war, but disasters in general, imagine a colapse or jamming of internet network or credit card buying or isolation from a flood or erathquake, help and minimum delivery infrastructures may take easily 3 days in effectively reach the people in need, is a reasonable amount to recover from the shock having around in average the minimum to survive in the mean time. Worse problems will be waiting for solution but this could save lives and improve significantly circumstances.
Some special military operations are planned like that 🙄
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I think there's an AI generated chocolate beans meme hidden somewhere.
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Just a question for people here who do not have 72 hours of food stored in their homes? Do you go to the supermarket every day? Or do you cook at all? What are you doing on the weekend? What happens when you're sick and can't go shopping?
Do you go to the supermarket every day?
There's 5 food stores <7 minutes away from my apartment,. Why stockpile when you can just walk and pick up fresh food every other day.
What happens when you're sick and can't go shopping?
Is that a common occurrence? Just get a friend or family member to shop for you if you're that ill, or order food delivery.
But don't you still have some staple stuff like noodles, rice, frozen or canned foods and so on in your house? Combined with the fact that you might buy food in larger quantities (e.g. not just 1 apple, but 6 or maybe 1kg), i'd also imagine that most people have enough food for 3 days in their house.
The imo more interesting thing would be fresh water.
Rice and onions are just about the only thing I have that last more than a few days. I don't buy frozen food as I'll just buy what I need at the store, 90% of my diet is just bread, eggs, chicken and rice, and 1.4kg of chicken is gone within 2-3 days.
You could always just lower your caloric intake if food became scarce.
The imo more interesting thing would be fresh water.
Tap water quality is great in Norway so water is something I never buy unless I forgot to fill up a bottle on a road trip. I don't really know anyone other soda addicts that keep liquid stored at notable quantities.
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Might happen at the end of month for me. We go grocery shopping with a car at the beginning of the month, but 31 days are longer than my freezer is big and a backpack can only hold so much. So I respectfully ask Putin not to attack on the 29th.
I have 2 days worth of food in my home. 4 days worth of lunch. When the 2 days of food runs out, I buy more on my way home. Same goes for when the lunch runs out. Meaning if I'm caught at a bad time, I'll have 0 food
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Yep, I have four supermarkets and two discounters in walkable distance and it makes me walk and leave the house daily. Plus my back's not the healthiest and I can't carry that much anymore.
72 hours of essential supplies. Do you have 72 hours of:
- food (cooked, or cookable? see points 2 and 3)
- stored water (taps out?)
- stored power generation (powers out?)
- medicines and first aid (emergency services outages? communications outages?)
- heat in the coldest months? (see point 3) etc.
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Meanwhile, here in the Uk our government is making sure we won't have enough money to buy more than two days of food at a time.
I mean, 14 consecutive years of Conservative leadership will do that to the best of nations.
No doubt the UK has a MASSIVE uphill struggle ahead to bring back a sense of prosperity for its people, but it’s a bit disingenuous to make it sound as though it’s the fault of a Government that’s been in power for less than a year so far.
It can take mere seconds to destroy something, and multiple times longer than that to fix it.
In Australia, we are a couple years ahead of the UK (in terms of our first Labor Gov’t following a decade+ of Conservative leadership); things don’t magically get better overnight, but we are at least on the correct path now — here’s hoping we don’t fuck things up by voting the Cons back in later this year 😫
Oh I'm well aware that the Con govmnt has been an appalling dismantling of our country, but Labour are so far appearing to largely be following suit. Remember the Tory repetition about the need for austerity? It just feels like a repeat of that, to put it very breifly. I know 14 years can't be fixed overnight, but shitting on the poor and needy, who have been suffering the most already is just grotesque. There's plenty of condemnation by journalists and MPs alike for this as well as some calls to tax the rich instead.
I've never voted for either so I'm looking at what they do through neutral(ish!) eyes and I don't see politics so much an ever increasing pandering to the corporate economy (over decades).
I can't say I'm too knowledgable about Aus politics, but got glimpses of how bad your last govmnt was through the Guardian. Hope you have a better time than us with a new set of faces!
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Hello ~~darkness~~ canned bread, my old friend
Can you get that?
My plan has just been flour (or grain and a grinder if it's more like 72 days) and more time spent baking.
Hope you're also planning to keep that oven going if there is a power outage...
It's something a lot of people (myself included) keep forgetting that without electricity, both your fridge and your stove / oven stop working.
I've cooked over open fires before and could do it again. I can even start one without a match.
The grinder would need a generator or solar panel, though. Thankfully both are fairly plentiful in my area, and depending on the situation oil production could continue to some degree. If it's comes to mortar and pestle I should maybe just die.
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72 hours? No problem. Always have a big bag of rice on hand and you're done.
Only if you have lots of water too. And preferably some way to heat it (though you can totally swell rice in cold water)
This brings up an important point. You should have something like a camping stove running on propane or similar stored fuel.
If the water supply fails you need to be able to cook water for drinking purposes.
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I'm happy I'm growing my own food.
Though I don't think much will happen to Ireland.
Canada here. Same for us in the food department. though I am less enthused about what may happen to us with yam tits raging downstairs.
Yam tits! That is genuinely a new one for me. Excellent.
I'll never, as long as I may live, get over the utter embarrassment of being born and raised in a country who could support that maniac. I suppose the worst thing I could do is leave. The only way to alleviate my shame is to stay and keep voting for the least insane option.
I freely admit I stole Yam TIts from another Lemmy user and I can't remember who or I would certainly give them credit. I feel it gets right to the point one is trying to convey.
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I read that as 72 days at first and thought something serious was expected soon. Oh, 72 HOURS. Who doesn't have that?
Also unless you are on the border, how useful is that likely to be? What would the expectation be, only short term supply chain disruption so shops may run out of something in the first few days but after that food supply will adjust to it?
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I could survive 72 hours on the food I have at home at any time, it won't be grand tho and I'll still need electricity to make most of it.
Once I move I'm planning on having a small stockpile (cause I'll finally have space for it) to last about 2 weeks or so, worst case I just need to eat it and restock it later and best case it saves me a lot of hassle in a crisis.
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