He's probing. If there's no resistance, he'll grab whatever he can.
this post was submitted on 17 Mar 2025
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MAGA path to success
- Leave NATO
- Invade Canada, a NATO country, triggering Article 5
- ???
- Profit
Yes, it all sucks, but this is just diversion to distract from the actual authoritarian takeover of the us government. Canada is safe from a military action by the US.
Do you not remember when Justin Trudeau met with Trump, and shortly afterward telling people that Trump was serious?
Trump is serious. He's incredibly brash and stupid, rife with tiny dick energy, which makes it dangerous.
I kinda pick one of these land grab schemes as the tipping point. If the current armed forces can look at what's waiting for them when they discharge and still go "yeah fuck Greenland!" then there's no coming back from this.
I'm a gun owner. I'm a solid shot @ 300 yards with a T/C encore 6.5. I'm smart enough to know that Id probably be dead before I even remembered to chamber against any armed forces. The military is what worries me right now very much. Especially if they choose how i would like them to. There's major repercussions to refusing orders (i assume) and I won't be the one to bear those so i can only ask.
The military oath requires refusal to obey unlawful orders.
This. My standard handgun is laughable compared to the military grade weapons that both the police and the military have.
People have been saying “It’s time to pick up arms and use the second amendment as intended” but in reality, the people who do that will be shot as soon as they raise their weapon. It’s suicide by cop/military.
And yet poorly armed civilians have overthrown governments. Why is that? Could it be that relative firepower is not the only factor?
Also, even if it's a matter of force meeting force, focused application of force at a critical point is determinative, not overall force. History is full of cases where smaller forces won.
I think we were simply discussing initial happenings not so much long term.
An AR15 or AK is plenty good enough. And if you have the money you can also get basically whatever night/thermal vision equipment your wallet can handle. At least in the USA still. If your handgun doesn't feel like enough (I agree that it's not) then I suggest you get yourself a long gun (and lots of ammo) before you can't anymore. Silver lining to all this bullshit is guns and ammo are as cheap as they've been in a long time. Unfortunately no one has any money..
Also you're right about it being suicide. But that's only if you're alone. Open carrying during protests has historically actually been pretty effective at keeping the peace. That's also how guns got/get banned though. The Black Panthers and Ronald Reagan for example.
You're assuming individual citizens are going to directly face the military. It'll be a guerilla war fought by irregulars. Militaries are piss-poor at putting those down, especially against their own citizens. You hit them where they aren't, not where they expect you.
What do you mean "IF" ?? There is no IF He just hasn't figured out how to succeed and get away with it. As soon as he has the answer to that..........
I'd bet a significant enough chunk of the US military is against annexation and would resist orders to invade. Canada and US have basically been brothers in arms for 100+ years, thats a hard culture to throw away for no real threat. The average US infantry is not going to feel like they are fighting for freedom by annexing Canada.
Ukraine and Russia have been brothers in arms for a thousand years and I thought the current war was impossible, but here we are.
Ukraine and Russia have been brothers in arms for a thousand years
Stalin committed genocide against Ukraine less than 100 years ago.
As an American even I don't have that faith in our military to do the right thing.
There's a good chunk of them that are indoctrinated in MAGA philosophies, and they are trained to follow orders. More likely that the pushback would come from leadership, however I certainly would not want to test it.
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Just like they were "fighting for freedom" by invading Iraq, a country that didn't have shit to do with the 9/11 attack or anything else going on at home at the time? Even after it was known they lied about "weapons of mass destruction", people still signed up to be sent over there.
They just need to find the right kind of propaganda to justify going into Canada, and then the meatheads will follow.
Your mistake was forgetting the people of Iraq are brown people.
There is a strong undercurrent of chauvinism among conservative Americans. That America is one of the last bastions of freedom against the degenerate progressive-marxist-globalist movement.
It will still take some twisting of facts and provocation, but probably not as much as you might think.
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Iraq wasn't their neighbor, the average american had rarely met or interacted with an Iraqi IRL or online. The same is not true for Canada. Our cultures and demographics are far more similar. It isn't impossible but the propaganda would have to be quite impressive to shift the overall attitude towards Canadians.
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They've already been firing generals that won't toe the line. They're in the process of ridding the military of trans soldiers. Gay/Lesbian soldiers will probably be next, and I don't doubt there will soon be incentives to rat out any fellow soldiers who are suspected of not being "Loyal Americans".
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Everything he says, he's serious about. Annexing Canada, Greenland, Panama canal, tariffs, not leaving office (currently floated as running for another term after this one), getting revenge on all his enemies, etc etc. All of it. How much of it he can actually do is however much he isn't stopped from doing.
Would he order use of force? I don't know. But the question isn't whether Hegseth would go along with it--of course he would. The question is how many American troops would follow the orders. IMO many or most would refuse. They (and the US populace) would view using military force against Canada in the same way they would view using military force against American citizens (which I would not be surprised to be ordered at some point). Other than a few hardcore magats, I believe we would never go along with a war against our Canadian cousins.
I believe we would never go along with a war against our Canadian cousins.
I fucking hope so. Many of us have relatives on both sides. We share culture, to an extent. It would basically be civil war.
He always is. The only question is if anyone with the power to stop him from doing whatever dumb as fuck thing has entered his diseased mind at the moment will stop him.
What if? He is definitely serious about his Anschluss.
Reminder that Canada has a population of over 40 million people and the Canada-US border is three times the length of the Eastern Front in WWII, which is by a long shot the largest front of any war in human history.
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He is. This is about climate change. Rich Americans need new lands to destroy.
There is no if. He's serious.
Send rump up here to Canada. We'll take care of the problem that muricans cannot
“Why would we do that?” said Frank Haynes, a 94-year-old Korean War veteran, who seemed utterly baffled by my absurd question.
That's pretty much what every American is thinking.
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