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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Was listening to my go-to podcast during morning walkies with my dog. They brought up an example where some couple was using ShatGPT as a couple's therapist, and what a great idea that was. Talking about how one of the podcasters has more of a friend like relationship to "their" GPT.

I usually find this podcast quite entertaining, but this just got me depressed.

ChatGPT is by the same company that stole Scarlett Johansson's voice. The same vein of companies that thinks it's perfectly okay to pirate 81 terabytes of books, despite definitely being able to afford paying the authors. I don't see a reality where it's ethical or indicative of good judgement to trust a product from any of these companies with information.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with you, but I do wish a lot of conservatives used chatGPT or other AI's more. It, at the very least, will tell them all the batshit stuff they believe is wrong and clear up a lot of the blatant misinformation. With time, will more batshit AI's be released to reinforce their current ideas? Yea. But ChatGPT is trained on enough (granted, stolen) data that it isn't prone to retelling the conspiracy theories. Sure, it will lie to you and make shit up when you get into niche technical subjects, or ask it to do basic counting, but it certainly wouldn't say Ukraine started the war.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

It will even agree that AIs shouldn't controlled by oligarchic tech monopolies and should instead be distributed freely and fairly for the public good, but the international system of nation states competing against each other militarily and economically prevents this. But maybe it will agree to the opposite of that too, I didn't try asking.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 13 hours ago

AI can be incredibly useful, but you still need someone with the expertise to verify its output.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 15 hours ago

I took a web dev boot camp. If I were to use AI I would use it as a tool and not the motherfucking builder! AI gets even basic math equations wrong!

[–] [email protected] 41 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That is the future of AI written code: Broken beyond comprehension.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Ooh is that job security I hear????

[–] [email protected] 33 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

This feels like the modern version of those people who gave out the numbers on their credit cards back in the 2000s and would freak out when their bank accounts got drained.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago

Holy crap, it’s real!

[–] [email protected] 37 points 22 hours ago

I hope this is satire 😭

[–] [email protected] 50 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, yes there are weird people out there. That's the whole point of having humans able to understand the code be able to correct it.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Chatgpt make this code secure against weird people trying to crash and exploit it ot

[–] [email protected] 20 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

beep boop
fixed 3 bugs
added 2 known vulnerabilities
added 3 race conditions
boop beeb

[–] [email protected] 14 points 22 hours ago

Roger Roger

[–] [email protected] 12 points 18 hours ago

But what site is he talking about?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 17 hours ago

taste of his own medicine

[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ha, you fools still pay for doors and locks? My house is now 100% done with fake locks and doors, they are so much lighter and easier to install.

Wait! why am I always getting robbed lately, it can not be my fake locks and doors! It has to be weirdos online following what I do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

The difference is locks on doors truly are just security theatre in most cases.

Unless you're the BiLock and it takes the LockPickingLawyer 3 minutes to pick it open.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f5uk6C1iDkQ

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago

To be fair, it's both.

[–] [email protected] 119 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hilarious and true.

last week some new up and coming coder was showing me their tons and tons of sites made with the help of chatGPT. They all look great on the front end. So I tried to use one. Error. Tried to use another. Error. Mentioned the errors and they brushed it off. I am 99% sure they do not have the coding experience to fix the errors. I politely disconnected from them at that point.

What's worse is when a noncoder asks me, a coder, to look over and fix their ai generated code. My response is "no, but if you set aside an hour I will teach you how HTML works so you can fix it yourself." Never has one of these kids asking ai to code things accepted which, to me, means they aren't worth my time. Don't let them use you like that. You aren't another tool they can combine with ai to generate things correctly without having to learn things themselves.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago

100% this. I've gotten to where when people try and rope me into their new million dollar app idea I tell them that there are fantastic resources online to teach yourself to do everything they need. I offer to help them find those resources and even help when they get stuck. I've probably done this dozens of times by now. No bites yet. All those millions wasted...

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

I've been a professional full stack dev for 15 years and dabbled for years before that - I can absolutely code and know what I'm doing (and have used cursor and just deleted most of what it made for me when I let it run)

But my frontends have never looked better.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 day ago (21 children)

The fact that “AI” hallucinates so extensively and gratuitously just means that the only way it can benefit software development is as a gaggle of coked-up juniors making a senior incapable of working on their own stuff because they’re constantly in janitorial mode.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Plenty of good programmers use AI extensively while working. Me included.

Mostly as an advance autocomplete, template builder or documentation parser.

You obviously need to be good at it so you can see at a glance if the written code is good or if it's bullshit. But if you are good it can really speed things up without any risk as you will only copy cody that you know is good and discard the bullshit.

Obviously you cannot develop without programming knowledge, but with programming knowledge is just another tool.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I maintain strong conviction that if a good programmer uses llm in their work, they just add more work for themselves, and if less than good one does it, they add new exciting and difficult to find bugs, while maintaining false confidence in their code and themselves.
I have seen so much code that looks good on first, second, and third glance, but actually is full of shit, and I was able to find that shit by doing external validation like talking to the dev or brainstorming the ways to test it, the things you categorically cannot do with unreliable random words generator.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

There is an exception to this I think. I don't make ai write much, but it is convenient to give it a simple Java class and say "write a tostring" and have it spit out something usable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

That's why you use unit test and integration test.

I can write bad code myself or copy bad code from who-knows where. It's not something introduced by LLM.

Remember famous Linus letter? "You code this function without understanding it and thus you code is shit".

As I said, just a tool like many other before it.

I use it as a regular practice while coding. And to be true, reading my code after that I could not distinguish what parts where LLM and what parts I wrote fully by myself, and, to be honest, I don't think anyone would be able to tell the difference.

It would probably a nice idea to do some kind of turing test, a put a blind test to distinguish the AI written part of some code, and see how precisely people can tell it apart.

I may come back with a particular piece of code that I specifically remember to be an output from deepseek, and probably withing the whole context it would be indistinguishable.

Also, not all LLM usage is for copying from it. Many times you copy to it and ask the thing yo explain it to you, or ask general questions. For instance, to seek for specific functions in C# extensive libraries.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So no change to how it was before then

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 23 hours ago

Eat my SaaS

[–] [email protected] 280 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Bonus points if the attackers use ai to script their attacks, too. We can fully automate the SaaS cycle!

[–] [email protected] 108 points 1 day ago (15 children)

That is the real dead Internet theory: everything from production to malicious actors to end users are all ai scripts wasting electricity and hardware resources for the benefit of no human.

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[–] [email protected] 163 points 1 day ago (6 children)

AI is yet another technology that enables morons to think they can cut out the middleman of programming staff, only to very quickly realise that we're more than just monkeys with typewriters.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yeah! I have two typewriters!

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is what happens when you don't know what your own code does, you lose the ability to manage it, that is precisely why AI won't take programmer's jobs.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t need ai to not know what my code does

[–] [email protected] 10 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

but with AI you can not know even faster. So efficient

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago
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[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 day ago

"If you don't have organic intelligence at home, store-bought is fine." - leo (probably)

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (16 children)

This is satire / trolling for sure.

LLMs aren't really at the point where they can spit out an entire program, including handling deployment, environments, etc. without human intervention.

If this person is 'not technical' they wouldn't have been able to successfully deploy and interconnect all of the pieces needed.

The AI may have been able to spit out snippets, and those snippets may be very useful, but where it stands, it's just not going to be able to, with no human supervision/overrides, write the software, stand up the DB, and deploy all of the services needed. With human guidance sure, but with out someone holding the AIs hand it just won't happen (remember this person is 'not technical')

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

idk ive seen some crazy complicated stuff woven together by people who cant code. I've got a friend who has no job and is trying to make a living off coding while, for 15+ years being totally unable to learn coding. Some of the things they make are surprisingly complex. Tho also, and the person mentioned here may do similarly, they don't ONLY use ai. They use Github alot too. They make nearly nothing themself, but go thru github and basically combine large chunks of code others have made with ai generated code. Somehow they do it well enough to have done things with servers, cryptocurrency, etc... all the while not knowing any coding language.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

That reminds me of this comic strip....

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