Oh, so climate change is god's doing? What a dick.
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Ngl, had me for the first two lines
Either we should have DST 24/7, or not at all
(points to places that do not experience significant deficits in daylight hours due to Earth's tilt)
"See! These places even do it, so no one else should either! (Also because I personally don't like it)"
Still wrong, regardless of the "reasons"
I'm pro-DST all year long.
It may be the only good thing that's publicly obvious and stupid enough that Trump might actually do it.
It won't redeem him, but I'll appreciate the gesture.
Trump also ended penny minting last month. It's like the only thing I agree with him on but hey, broken clocks and all.
I could work with this person. They even take a dig at flat earthers. Plus, they're on the right side of the DST/Standard Time argument: DST only exists because golf courses want more daylight in the evening hours.
If they want to believe it's because it's not godly, then fine. I don't care why they believe it, but they don't believe in a flat Earth, and they want to repeal DST, and I can collaborate on those basis.
Wait wait wait...are you serious about the golf comment? That would be crazy if it's true!
I'm dead serious.
It's full of caveats, though. DST wasn't started by golf courses, of course. And they're not the only businesses that benefit from having more daylight hours after work, when people can go and pay for whatever activity they want to do that needs daylight. But whenever this comes up, golf course lobbies are prominent - they are either sponsoring bills to eliminate standard time, or opposing bills that eliminate DST. They want to preserve DST no matter what; knowing that many Americans would support eliminating the switch, they want it to be DST we end up with.
But, no, they aren't the moustache-twirling masterminds behind DST. They're just a prominent leader of industries that benefit from dark mornings at light evenings (vs the alternative).
I was with them until the god stuff. now I really don't want to meet this person.
Yeah, well Spain does change its hour still. I also hope we stop thin nonsense, but no need to involve religion into this.
That's why we should return to natural time! At any given location and in any given day, the Sun rises at 6 AM and sets at 6 PM. Days and nights have precisely 12 hours each, regardless of time of year. The length of hours simply shifts with the course of the year.
This was how people traditionally kept time, back in the days of sundials or simply telling time by the position of the Sun in the sky. It went away with the invention of mechanical clocks. But, with modern GPS and computers, there's no reason we couldn't return to it. You could have a smart watch that worked on this traditional/natural time system. In the background it tracks time based on UNIX time. But then, based on time of year and you GPS coordinates, it adjusts to match the appropriate hour length for your time of day and location. Coordinating people between geographic location becomes difficult, but I'm sure we can build an app for that. You work the same number of hours throughout the year. Your 8 hour shift is just longer in the Summer and shorter in the Winter.
For those above the Arctic Circle? Well that sounds like a you problem!
Let us return to Natural Time! Let us live as the gods intended!
There are a lot of very good reasons to never do that.
Wait. Are you saying that an hour is no longer 60 minutes, but one 12th of the time between sunrise and sunset?
We lose a lot of light in the winter, and I'm not sure that I want to spend an extra 3 hours at work every day in the summer.
Yes! There will always be 12 hours between sunset and sunrise, regardless of time of year. This is how our ancestors lived. Sure, you work more in the Summer, but you make up for it in the Winter.
Yeah that's gonna be a hard pass from me. I like my time in predictable increments, thanks.
But it's better, because it's natural. /s
At that point you might as well go with the full blown free range organic supernatural time scale, none. Sun dials were a mistake, we must return to the time before he concept of timekeeping existed. "What's the time?" "What even is time, maan. Its all just a construct. Come lay on this rock and let us enjoy this glowy ball move across the sky." "B-but productivity and scheduling and...." "Nah bro its all made up numbers to play societal monkey games man, it doesnt exist. The only 'time' is the present transitioning into the infinitely branching phase space of the future at the speed of causality, maan. The only calendar you need to worry about is the phases of the moon"
i've lived in places with midnight sun. that's gotta be a no from me.
Where I am an hour would be 45 minutes in December and an hour and a half in June. Fine I guess, unless you're getting paid by the hour.
Eh, you'll make more per hour in the winter and less in the summer. It balances out.
But I want to do all my work in the winter and lay around on the beach all summer
I actually don’t mind the shortened non-dst winter season now.