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[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like as this goes on, this list just devolves into random Star Trek species.

I mean, the whole point of the Antedians and Breen is they’re total meme species.

I personally feel like one of the ACTUAL worst species in the franchise is LD’s Dooplers. While overall, the eponymous episode is great, probably one of the series bests, the Dooplers felt out of place. Usually, Lower Decks has a standard of doing things that are both ridiculous and plausible by Star Trek logic - in other words, the cartoon dial is usually set at 6 or 7 (unless it’s a hallucination), but I feel like the Dooplers were a jarring turn to a 10.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I never really thought about it, but you're right, the Dooplers are too over the top and only make sense in a cartoon context.

The Pandronians from TAS and LD (the species that effectively have three independent parts) also make no sense outside of a cartoon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 minutes ago

I feel like the Pandronians aren’t as severe - maybe an 8. You could explain the floating in part as a naturally occurring anti-gravity system (which does canonically exist artificially).

I might be biased, though, in kn my Star Trek Adventures campaign, I have a Pandronian as my chief medical officer.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

On the contrary, Lower Decks made the Pakleds more than a one episode farce.

"Well, the Pakleds murdered the entire crew of the Solvang because everyone assumed they were a joke." - Captain Freeman

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'm glad someone said this before I had to, thanks to Lower Decks pakleds are now easily the best C-tier star trek species.

Even before lower decks, "We look for things that make us go" is just an excellent meme.

Edit: Oh, this person is a first contact hater. While I don't disagree with eveyr one of their opinions, they can now be safely ignored as a general rule ;)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Having grown up with TNG as my intro to Trek, this First Contact besmirchment will not stand!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

TBF it's only hated in implication but that's too much for me.

Not only that in the same section he goes on to say that Frakes could have taken notes from TMP on how to set up Insurrection which is just... the weirdest take, since IMO those movies suffer from almost the exact same problems that come from making a pretty mid episode into a feature film.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Disclaimer: My article posts do not necessarily reflect my views

I like all the trek movies up until the Kelvin timeline movies lmao

Any trek movie/episode that features self-destruct to completion and/or ramming a ship into another as last ditch effort is automatically S-tier in my book lolol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

From just the last 2 weeks, featuring 1 of each:

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I don't blame you for the linked article. Although I can't agree with liking st5 or nemesis, I am entirely behind you on the ramming/self destruct part.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Throughout several episodes in the first two seasons of Enterprise, the Suliban draw Captain Archer into the Temporal Cold War. That sounds cool, but the execution of the Suilban falls flat, starting with their design. They look like they’re covered in cheap green foam, giving them an unsettling texture that reads cheaper than even the aliens of the original series.

Look how they massacred my boy

At least the Suliban villain, Silik, was pretty cool. Sometimes an enemy, sometimes a friend, always throwing shade 👌

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

I like Silik, but their skin does look like roofing shingles lol

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

D tier:

But the music is good.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Come on, listing terrible aliens and the Ligonians aren't at the top of the list?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago

Didn't have space with the *checks notes* Banea and calling the Klingons on Discovery another species. 😹