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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

First eggs, now coffee?

Man, my breakfast is getting real slim nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 minutes ago* (last edited 18 minutes ago)

It's like those people saying quit your every day coffee/breakfast/lunch/cigarette and you will afford a house.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Time to start the french special: bred, butter, jam and a cigarette.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 hours ago

Looking forward to price hikes far beyond the actual cost to middlemen. The eggification of another good.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (4 children)

The coffee price hikes have stemmed from lower production in important coffee growing regions, particularly in top grower Brazil, reducing the availability of beans.

That's the closest I could find in the article as to a reason. It'd be nice to know if it was just a bad year or if this is going to be a permanent challenge going forward due to climate change or some other factors.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

Coffee can be a pain to grow. As someone else mentioned, you have to have the right environment (rain, sunshine, soil, etc).

Adding to this is that it’s easier to grow other things that are in just as much demand. Vietnam has switched to growing durian fruit — less fussy and makes them just as much money.

https://www.itv.com/news/2024-09-18/why-the-worlds-smelliest-fruit-is-making-your-coffee-more-expensive

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Coffee is quite sensitive to environmental factors and only grows in certain specific regions as a result. Those factors are being upended by climate change. Coffee is going to very rapidly become a luxury product.

Billionaires don't care. Twenty dollars or two dollars for a cup is effectively the same price to them; insignificant. It's the rest of us that get fucked.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Except we are nowhere near a situation like that. Articles like this don't tell the actual prices because they are so small people might start questioning why they pay so much for coffee.

The poll had a median forecast for arabica prices at the end of 2025 of $2.95 per pound, a drop of 30% from Wednesday's close and a loss of 6% from end-2024.

$3 per pound - $6 per kilo. Or to put it in another way, 4.8 cents per shot of espresso, two of which go in a 16 oz Starbucks latte that costs you $5.75, which would be enough money to buy 120 shots worth of bulk arabica.

If that goes up by 7% or 70% or 700%, the cost of that latte should hardly change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Logistics cost money

Shucking and processing the beans costs money

Roasting the beans costs money

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 hours ago

It's also due to very bad weather/floods in the second largest producer, Vietnam.

And since extreme weather events are increasing in intensity and frequency, it's not going to get better (as a trend at least).

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

From what I've heard this is largely due to bad weather due to climate change, as I understand it, we should not expect coffee prices to ever go back to where they were.
For the past 4-5 years it seems prices have only gone up here. It's more than triple now of what it used to be before Covid, and that's only 5 years!

But I'm not an expert, this is just what I've been seeing as a heavy coffee drinker in the supermarket, and what I've gathered from short news tid-bits.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

My ground coffee has gone up about 20-30% over the past 2 years. This is just based on memory and not an exact calculation. It’s possible, I’ve misremembered the old price slightly, but either way it has gone up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

Pretty much. I watched my favorite coffee hut (literally a hut that you drive up to) go from $3 large like 5 years ago to $4, then within a year hit $5. At that point, I stopped going, although funny enough, i did go there today since it was convenient and it's now $5.50... I laughed and said yeah I'm definitely done now. As much as I like coffee, it's now a high-end luxury item that I can no longer afford even occasionally due to everything else raising as well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Fucking bummer. Everyone around me will crash and burn, and us non-coffee drinkers will rule the world!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

Lol, it only takes a few days to no longer have withdraw effects of caffeine. Some Ibuprofen and Tylenol will take care of the headache in the transition.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Cut out the middle man. I just started roasting raw beans. Costs less than half as much as I was paying before and tastes better than I've ever had before.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 29 minutes ago

Global warming makes coffee harder to cultivate, that restricts the supply, hence the price hikes. I guess coffee is going to be a luxury item in the future.

While the world is focused on its own problems, far right populism, and what not, we are oversleeping a great opportunity to rein in global warming. With douchebags like Trump at the helm, the crisis is getting worse and worse. I guess the kids of our kids will read about this time in their history books and wonder how stupid and egocentric we were back then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 50 minutes ago

You've only cut out the roaster, which does nothing to solve your supply issues.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 48 minutes ago

That'll work until the supply for beans really starts drying up.