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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I know this is an unpopular opinion, but listening to audio books isn't reading.

It is a different sensory experience. It uses different parts of the brain and imagination too.

It is far closer to listening to a radio play.

I'm not saying it is any worse or better, just different.

I'm not sure that conflating the two is useful, particularly when talking about reading habits.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You say it's an unpopular opinion but the survey results in the linked article suggest that Britain generally agrees with you (52% responded "No, I do not" to the question "Do you consider listening to an audiobook as equivalent to having read that same book?").

The "yes" option was around somewhat less popular overall (29%).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

I say unpopular because those that do think audiobook are "books" tend to be very, very vocal about how wrong I am when I express that opinion... As if I'm somehow undermining their enjoyment or the legitimacy of their consumption.

The 52% on my side are just sat quietly reading books and minding their own business.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

This is not an unpopular opinion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I already spend most of my day reading and writing documents so the idea of reading even more for fun just makes my eyes hurt. I love books but if I can enjoy them in a different format to let them rest then I'd be happy to do so. Audiobooks are a great experience when you're out for an evening walk or staring at traffic for your commute.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Yep. Cool. There's a place for them, certainly.

Still don't think that's reading though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

This is pretty much why I don't really read books but I don't even do audio books. Part of it is there is just to much media as an option.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (3 children)

IDK why reading books is considered such a worthy activity per se, and nobody ever analyses what people read.

If we are going to be honest, most books are mere entertainment and there are also a lot of titles that actually make the reader a worse human being (I am thinking of books about conspiracies, neo-far-right manifestos, and similar waste of paper).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think you make some interesting points... Content is important.

Although I think there's such a desperation to get people into the reading habit that anything is considered good enough.

Remember the Harry Potter book when they first came out. I seem to remember a lot of chat about how those books were low effort, but that they encouraged a lot of life-long readers.

I know that here, in the UK, our education system tends to make people resent reading. Furthermore it instills some awful habits... Like feeling you have to finish a book even if you aren't enjoying it (which usually means you stop reading altogether).

Anyway. That's a long way of saying I think you are right.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Here too (Italy) the education system makes a pretty terrible job at teaching the joys of reading (or those of music, maths, and... pretty much anything to be honest).

Maybe that's why people love soccer so much... because they have not been properly taught to like other things?

I've been told by people who live in the US (California, IDK if it's the same elsewhere) that kids have reading periods at school where the class is silent and each kid sits by their own and reads whatever book they please.

It made me chuckle at first, but then I started wondering if that could work better than assigning books to read at home and report on like they do here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Yeah I agree, reading is very time consuming and a lot of books are not more subtle than any movie or YouTube video. People should just be free to pickup their hobbies as long as they don't become illiterate (which I don't think you ca "become"?).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There is something about reading and in particular a story. If you read a text book or manual its different. With a story you visually look at the words and you don't just take in the words but will also imagine the sound of the voices and the image of the scene and even smells. It sorta activates all parts of your brain in a way nothing else does quite as well. I would say its as valuable or maybe more than doing suduko or crosswords or some other puzzle type thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's very romantic.

When you say reading "reading "sorta activates all parts of your brain" do you mean in the objective MRI sense or a personal romantic/mystical one?

When you say reading is more valuable than sudoku or crossword (I assume, for senile dementia?), do you say that based on your impression or on clinical data?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

its all opinion from my experience.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Is there a reason why the focus is always on books only?

I read technical documentation pretty much every day, I read technical blogposts every other day and news daily.

I read a lot, just not a book.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

I don't think there is conclusive evidence right now. But what I have heard hypothesized is that books require engaging your mind over a longer period of time on the same narrative thread broken up over numerous sittings. So, you improve your ability for complex, long-term cognition, since you have to commit to memory and recall details about that specific story, not just general ideas related to it.

I think it would also be problematic to exclusively read books personally. Not everything worth reading makes sense in a long format. Technical documentation is also part of my day-to-day.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Another 50% claim to have read a book.

10% have read a book

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Read as "finish from beginning to end" or as "opened and get some paragraphs"?

Example: I'm not a kid anymore and lost interest in fiction literature a long time ago. But I still read technical literature. Of course this kind of books are significantly harder to read (and often there is no need to read them in full) so I don't think I have read a book in full during the last year.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

This is my problem. I love reading some denser scientific or social study stuff but sometimes just a few pages and my brain is burnt out. I could keep reading further but at that point i don't retain as much because I'm still fleshing out the concepts and ideas from earlier.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Many years ago, I learned that the average household only has five books. Looking at my library of more than ten thousand books, I realized that to reach that average, our family basically deprives a small town of their books. A depressing thought.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That also sounds like you might be depriving a university lecture hall of their square meters lol. 10k books, I dont think I'd have room for 100 even.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

I don't think I have read a book in the last 12 years.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Oops. Me too.

I have re-read Tao Te Ching and parts of Azimov's Foundation and parts of Vacuum Flowers and small pieces of X-Wing series, so - revisited things.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

I'm a Canadian in the UK. I love to read, but I don't have the bandwidth or time to sit and read right now. As such I fit into this statistic....

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

I'm feeling some extreme heat... my thermometer reads 451 Farenheit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

oh come on. books are so 1900s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

I read a ton of memes on tiktok - does that count?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I'm surprised the lower class peasants are allowed to read in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I would blame the Big Tech social networks. My mom uses Instagram all the time and always claims she is getting "a lot of information". I think that's to blame. But also reading books isn't something you force into people, it will make them hate it. It's just a hobby, either you do it or you don't. It makes people dumb? Ok. But you can't force soul-searching (or any other reason to read a book) into someone.

I think that maybe events and other gatherings for readers would be good, people who are searching for something to fill their emptyness but don't know what yet may get into books (or any other thing).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

I also think that reading "A Vampire in my room" with a sexy Chad on the cover isn't much better than using Instagram, so...