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Ontario Premier Doug Ford warned that Canada could cut electricity exports to the U.S. in retaliation for Donald Trump’s new tariffs on Canadian goods.

The U.S. imposed a 25% tariff on most Canadian imports, citing border security concerns. Ford emphasized that U.S. states like New York and Michigan rely on Canadian energy and should “feel the pain.”

Canadian officials also announced $155 billion in counter-tariffs.

If enacted, energy restrictions would likely raise prices in the U.S., escalating trade tensions between the two countries.

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[–] [email protected] 277 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As an American, I agree 100%. Canada needs to kick our ass. We deserve it.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I agree with the sentiment but those states are all pretty blue. Trump might just let it happen to widen the divide and somehow claim that it's punishment for not bending the knee.

[–] [email protected] 118 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Im gonna tell you right now, as a Canadian, we do not care what colour your states are.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (7 children)

But also - we invite secession!

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Given that Canadians don't typically vote in American elections, I don't see how that has anything to do with us or should affect our decision making.

The USA is tariffing us, not just the red states.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

Yeah, the us is bad at thinking everyone is inside their crazy system. It does not matter to us if you state "don't blame me I voted for Kodos", at the end of the day you are all citizens of a belligerent nation. Your government is representing you all on the world stage, if you don't like it do something about it.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (12 children)

That's some weird logic. Trump enacts tariffs on Canada,who retaliates in kind, so you're worried about blue votes. Trump may claim that after the fact, but he's definitely not playing chess that many moves ahead.

The dude can barely plan a double jump with hopscotch, much less checkers.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe you guys should just kick out the traitors that very obviously work for a foreign government.

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[–] [email protected] 180 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (14 children)

Good for them, maybe our economy will collapse too, and an angry mob will storm the white house and kick Trump out. He can emergency evacuate to Russia, and we can find an administration that isn't insane.

Heyy.. a guy can dream.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 month ago (2 children)

sort of the best case scenario

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Im still flabbergasted that so many people are just shrugging at what Trump is doing and saying, well, if only Kamala or the DNC did this or that instead. Maybe we wouldn't be in this mess.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Cept that is what the rich want. Shit to fall apart. Cuz then they get to buy shit up for cheap and consolidate even more wealth.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'd prefer we do more than kick Trump out. Like...guillotine them all.

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[–] [email protected] 125 points 1 month ago (6 children)

(Copy-pasting from another thread)

I like Cory Doctorow’s plan.

The reason Canada got tariff-free access to sell to the US in the first place? Canada agreed to enforce penalties for tampering with digital locks, following the premise of the Digital Milennium Copyright Act.

If the US is going back on the deal, then Canada should too. Make it legal to jailbreak all US tech.

Doctorow advocating for this plan:

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[–] [email protected] 116 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Do it unilaterally without discussing with US.

[–] [email protected] 126 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Or even better: Discuss it with Ukraine, US gets no say in the deal. And if drumpf disagrees, the reply will be "you don't want electricity."

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

I actually had a good laugh at this... Then I had to login to my second account to up vote this twice.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They need to do this and make it absolutely clear that it is 100% Trump's fault. They cannot be allowed to make the claim that canada did it unprovoked or for the lulz.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Trudeau got in front of the cameras today and spelled this out. Our government chose to take this action, and Canada is having an entirely reasonable response. Once the tarrifs end, we can go back to where we were, but in the meantime, Americans need to learn how much they rely on Canadian trade and need to understand that this is entirely our government's fault.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

What Canada needs to start doing is violating US copyright and stealing their IP. Sell jailbreaks for American hardware.

That was part of the free-trade deal, so why would Canada keep up that side of the bargain?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 weeks ago

This!! This should have been the very first thing! Retaliatory tariffs hurt the consumers, companies and so the economy overall. Reversing the insane IP laws that prevent people from modifying, repairing, upgrading their American products would open business opportunities and lower costs for Canadians.

The main issue is the benefit will be seen on medium term, not days/weeks, and if it is under threat to be reversed again as soon as Trump backs down on his tariffs, not many will take the risk to invest in the maintenance and repair sector.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Do it Canada. The dumber half of our country needs to learn the hard way. And, unfortunately, the smarter half has to go along for the ride.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Don't get too excited. Ford loves to talk tough but he's a fucking pussy.

We'll see what actually happens. No one here is holding their breath.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hey pussies can take a pounding.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago

R.I.P. Betty White

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it.... America needs to learn, I say this as an American.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 month ago (17 children)

On the slim bright side maybe just maybe this might make the US think of renewable energy, it’s why China invests so much into it to prevent relying on countries for oil.

Ehh who am I kidding, that’s not going to happen at all.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (5 children)

More likely they'll reopen coal plants

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago

Play stupid games win stupid prizes. Glad that Canadians are standing up for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Let the southern bastards freeze in the dark...not permanently, just a brief period, followed by an export tax. Cut power once in March, then again throughout the NBA playoffs in April.

At this point we should do this whether or not Trump reverses course. Make it clear there is nothing he can do to avoid it.

I'm sick of this market fuckery back and forth. I'm convinced he's trying to depress the Canadian dollar and the value of Canadian companies and industries, so that oligarchs in the US can buy them up. It's a hostile corporate takeover of our country. Fuck him, we need to go hard - permanent tariffs as long as Trump is in office...and we need legislation to ensure 51% Canadian ownership of strategic resources, as well as no American investment right now. If necessary, we need to nationalize strategic resources and industries.

What we don't need is a fucking tax break for the rich. We're on a war footing right now and our leaders need to accept this. The people have largely accepted it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't think he actually cares about Canada specifically. The point is to alienate the US from its allies and reduce any kind of powerful diplomatic mediators or military deterrents so Russia and similar traditionally colonial powers can just start seizing whatever territory they want.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago (22 children)

USian here, don't think twice, fucking do it.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Don't announce it, just do it and observe the panic...and then the begging for it to come back but with a 25% hike in prices.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago (14 children)

Why is the fairness meter of the article "unfair left leaning", when it just reports on something someone said?

I don't see any opinion piece there, but pretty much just direct quoting

How can this be even left or right leaning? Oo

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

In the US, reporting on simple facts makes you “radical left” while obvious propaganda makes you “right leaning”.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (8 children)

We Americans have a serious problem labeling anything we disagree with as "those other guys". I might even say it's our main problem. We wouldn't be where we're at today without the divisiveness and team mentality.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

Whole world needs to put 300 percent tarrifs on the US until they realise they are 5 percent of the world and aren't in a position to bully others.

China's going to eat their lunch if they keep things as they are.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

As an American, fucking do it, and make sure DC and Red states feel the most pain. And don't have some qwar ass back door conversation/deal to end the tariffs. Refuse to end them until he goes on live television and reads the following

"To all my fellow Americans, the best Americans from the best America, in hind sight, as it concerns tariffs with our closest geographical allies, I was wrong. The decision I made was stupid, and it was made by an idiot, me. Unfortunately I don't have the intellectual or business aptitude to actually determine what a good decision would be, as opposed to a bad decision. In fact, I am as stupid as the idiots who voted for me. This was the idea that I thought I would be fantastic and I was completely wrong and it's the only idea I had. I apologize to Canada and Mexico, both their leaders and citizens"

It would crush him to make a sincere public apology and backtrack. And he'll still get lynched before the end of year. Because he fucking deserves it.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

Do it, but sadly it will affect the Blue States.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if Trump threatened military action in return, should Canada go forward with it. I mean, it sounds crazy to write it, but is it really too crazy for Trump?

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