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MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell criticized Donald Trump’s Oval Office press conference with Elon Musk, calling it “the most powerless image of a president” ever.

Musk dominated the event—standing over Trump, speaking more words, and violating White House norms with his casual attire and child’s presence.

O’Donnell contrasted Musk’s influence with Trump’s past and present vice presidents, arguing that neither Mike Pence nor JD Vance would challenge Trump’s authority in such a manner.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 days ago

Elon's kid made a fucking bitch of trump on live television and we can never go back from that moment

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

'trump taunted' is not news. The other half of the country sees this as a big dick power move. You can spin it any way you like. Pointless journalism. What's the point?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's not journalism. It's entertainment.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I know. I wish it was treated as such. I really hope people in the future come to value nuance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

This is not just bad, but desperate journalism. Nobody cares. It’s cruel to feed readers wishful thinking like this.

[–] [email protected] 221 points 1 week ago (7 children)

violating White House norms with his casual attire and child’s presence.

He also had a 5 year old with him.

[–] [email protected] 138 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Ah yes, his human shield he's had since The Luigi Event.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not so much a shield, more a prop.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I mean you say that but he's been wearing him on his shoulders like body armor since the day after. He's definitely a shield.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

Por que no los dos?

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[–] [email protected] 145 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Weird how one CEO gets Luigied and suddenly it's bring your kid to work day for president Musk.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago

Lol I think I can get behind Luigi as a verb

[–] [email protected] 142 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Also, who wears a basebal cap and a T-shirt, and brings his four-year old who - like any four-year old - can't shut the hell up in the oval office? I mean honestly, who is this guy? Just because he has money doesn't give him the right to turn the presidency into a fucking daycare center. He could at least pretend to respect the institution a little bit...

[–] [email protected] 129 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The 4 year old is nothing more than a meat shield. Remember how right after the CEO shooting, Elmo started carrying one of his brood with him?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Like that would work in a country dominated by school shooters.

I feel bad for the kid being spawned by Musk though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

He's one of, what, 10?

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago

Just because he has money doesn't give him the right

Gonna stop you there, friend, and remind you that this is America. Yes it does.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

On the other hand, maybe the most sensible things might have come from the 4-year-old ... Do we have an official statement from the child ?
P.S. : first time ever I'm not writing down the usual /sarcasm

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Musk Jr. would like it on the record that we need more candy and toys.

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm sure the right wingers complaining about Zelensky not wearing a suit are incandescent with rage about Musks lack of decorum.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The same people who raged about Obama's tan suit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

So who all is being hypocritical?

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You want to get rid of Musk, stuff like this is how you do it.

Publicly make Trump out to be the lessor power in the relationship and his ego won't be able to handle it. Look how fast he lost his shit during that debate with Harris when the subject of his crowd size came up.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I really think people who say this aren't reading the room. It's not the same old Trump. This is an old broken down mentally deficient Trump. This isn't a case of an alliance between equals. This is a case of a grifter taking advantage of a guy too old to make decisions for himself. This is like a guy stealing the Social Security checks , altering the will , and selling assets for his own gain. I mean by all means keep saying it, cuz who knows and it is true, I just don't think it'll work. If anything it might be embolding Musk and legitimizing him.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Publicly make Trump out to be the lessor power in the relationship and his ego won’t be able to handle it.

That's what I've thought until now, but after that display I don't think he'll do anything to Musk, who it seems really does have some power over him--the money of course, but maybe something else too--maybe some dirt, maybe something in conjunction with Putin. But to let that little brat say those things[*] to him and his only reaction was to be submissive and look away tells me Musk really is the one in control here. This is actually scary.

[*] "You're not the president, you need to go away" and "I want you to shut your fucking mouth up"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Wait, what is this * part of your comment? I guess I missed some piece of these insane news cycles.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I've seen several clips from the press conference of "Little X" saying those things to trump, in an audible whisper. You should be able to find them with a search, or if not I can try to find them in my history. Trump sits hunched, looks briefly at the kid then looks away in a defeated manner (like a dog!) while musk rambles on. Anyone else, trump would have said to get the kid out of there, it's bizarre.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

https://www.snopes.com/articles/469232/musk-son-told-trump-shut-up/

Idc what snopes says about inconclusive; I saw and heard in the vids exactly what you did, lmao

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Fucking love it when articles are specifically about a photo but they don’t post the fucking photo

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wormtongue has made himself very cosy in his new home it would seem.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I understood that reference... but Theodin was a good man

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Poor kid is named X. What stupid assholes his parents are: he's gonna have to bear that stupid name all his life.

Then again, he could have been called Twitter I guess...

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (5 children)

he's gonna have to bear that stupid name all his life.

Now now... They could legally change it when they're 18.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (9 children)

The whole thing seemed to me to be a cutscene from the Red Alert universe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Conscript reporting!

We are being attacked :’(

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago

label musk as alpha and trump as beta in this picture (not that I believe in those labels but they do)

Then post it all over x-itter like crazy.. Don't let it die.. make this 'a thing'

And then watch Musk have the conundrum as to whether to take it down or not....

His ego wouldn't let him take it down, and make Donny Dump respond to it....

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago

I have never seen Trump act more servile towards anyone than when he pulled a chair out for Netanyahu.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Star trek deep space nine spoilers

Their relationship is like grand nagus zekand ishka. Ishka wasnt allowed to do business under ferengi law due to being a woman. So she got close to zek and was acting behind the scenes to help maintain zeks appearance during his mental decline.

Musk, being an illegal immigrant, wouldn't have been able to be president directly. One difference being musk is clearly leading in the spotlight.

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