Create FOMO for players so they continuously check in and play to unlock stuff so they never miss out on an opportunity
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This comment made me mad at Destiny 2 again.
Your anger is pure and justified.
I've reached the point where if a game gives me FOMO I will just stop playing the game
This is basically how I play Forza. Play a couple days to get my weeklys and then check in the next week
Are you playing then or are you just doing a todo list every week?
Destiny 2 moment
You're*
MONEY
dats why
Devs are like that because publishers says they should do it. And publishers are like that because people keep buying and paying for all that shit. So in the end they are like that because of OP who contributes to the FOMO and wants to throw money at them for cosmetics.
Play Deep Rock Galactic. If you want a Halloween hat from 4 years ago. This Halloween will have new hats, and all the previous hats. All the gear is like that.
Rock and Stone!!!!
The current fascination with skins and cosmetics is hilarious. It’s ridiculous that people continue to put money and time into a game mechanic that was already perfected with the catboy costume. If you’re playing a game and you aren’t using a free catboy costume, why are you even playing that game? Secondarily, your opinion is worthless, stop wasting drive space on my internet by posting it.
You sound bitter. I bet you actually didn't get the catboy costume. Loser.
You dare doubt my enjoyment of catboys? Do you even understand who you’re talking to?? If you EVER suggest that I am even NEUTRAL to programmer socks and midriffs, I will come down on you like the semiflaccid, freshly shaven hammer of Thor. You mark my FUCKING WORDS.
okay grandpa, now let's get you to bed.
FOMO. The answer is FOMO. buy the skin now, it won't be here forever.
me in the default skin, just having fun with the game because it's actually a decent game: You have no power here.
Even funnier in shooters with somewhat realistic aesthetics adding super bright, garrish outfits that cost money but also light you up like a Christmas tree to every serious player in the game. Y'all are dumb dressing like a fuckin' traffic cone. I'ma stay in these drab brown and green coverings and blend in with the trees.
Devs have nothing to do with that decision
they are the ones developing and implementing that decision though.
That decision doesn't come from the devs.
Yes, and they're the ones heeding it.
Dude what's your deal?
You think they're going to strike and refuse? This is their last stand? They throw away their job because they will die on this hill?
nah, i wanted some spine on people.
devs aint gonna starve if they refuse a crappy job for another one.
that applies to many things, not just games btw.
They develop it, sure, but much like the rest of the game, devs have minimal say in what actually goes into the game.
devs are the rare kind of worker who can choose to work elsewhere without much problems.
Somewhere else where it's going to end up the same. The industry is shit with this kind of practice, devs can go wherever they want, sure. Assuming this is true, which I have my doubts on, it doesn't matter if everywhere is doing the same thing.
then open your own fucking studio instead of addicting kids for fucking money??? stop coding and do better shit for humanity?
Big moving goalposts there. Maybe direct some of that vitriol at the execs, the ones who are actually not doing shit for humanity.
The goalpost is still not having stuff like this just because some asshoIe somewhere wants more money.
And nothing will actually change if workers keep sucking it up and doing the unethical garbage they are told to do. If complaining to them did anything, this wouldn't be a problem in the first place.
Workers need to eat from every industry. The issue is almost never with them. Let me ask you this, do you have the same level of hate towards the cashiers at Walmart? Or the waiters at the restaurants you go to? No, probably not, so why this unique level of anger towards devs?
I dont have specific hate for any of those professions you mentioned. Thats including developers.
I do think some of these workers (namely software devs, but many others too) have the power to stand up and go elsewhere at the very least.
I don't think most developers working for a big studio in a first world country are that worried about food though.
So it's because they have a better paying job? Because they earn better than the cashiers and thus "don't have to worry" about food, so they can do what they want? Software devs are still pretty trash paid, compared again, to the execs. They have a bit more wiggle room than a service industry worker, sure, but by no means "fuck you" money, except the one-in-a-million. They're working class just like you and me and all the service industry people. Aim your anger at the dudes in fancy suits and more 0s in their bank account than anyone should reasonably have.
Pretty much. The more money you make, all other things being equal, the more time you can spend between jobs without food running out. I specifically said they are less worried not that they are free to stop working willy nilly. Moreover strikes and similar protests can be organized in a way to make this less impactful.
Again I swear I have no huge anger for these people, but I hope you realize these things are not mutually exclusive. Meaning anger alone won't fix the problem with execs. Having devs refuse to purposefully build software that is invasive, addictive or whatever it is, can and will hurt execs.
Workers that are better paid in the first place are in a better position to do this, yes, and would work better than simply raging at the execs.
This all sounds like you just want someone else to start the fight. If anything, the more downtrodden and more numerous low-earning people have much more reason to strike and start fighting back, and will affect more change. Their jobs are actually required for our society to continue functioning, unlike most dev work, particularly game dev.
I don't have an issue with most of the actual content of what you said. The only issue I have is that it's kinda counterproductive. Realistically, all of these groups need to rise against the people making the decisions. They WANT us to be angry at the people they're giving commands. The top class wants the middle and lower fighting each other.
I do fight. We just need the brunt of the people to also be fighting. Our only real advantage is our numbers, and it has to actually accomplish shit.
I think the longer it takes us, the more brutal it will be. Our current timeline is not going in a nice direction.
As I said its not exactly anger. More like a feeling of urgency?
Tbh, I’m okay with exclusive (cosmetic) seasonal content.
Games are expensive. A good online multiplayer game requires a stable revenue source and a huge active player base. Seasonal content is one of less scummy ways to achieve both. It spreads the costs better than milking a small number of whales and it incentivizes the average player to play on the regular.
Imo, losing out on a skin cause you didn’t buy/play a specific season is decent trade off. You don’t need to own everything you want.
Minecraft made 2 billion before Microsoft turned it into a micro transaction hell, and that game's development was glacial as fuck.
I'm not buying anymore GaaS garbage. That includes a game I've waited years to see, I will skip it if they monetize it like Destiny 2 or Darktide. I'm done with this shit.
For the sake of conversation, what's your opinion on offering the same cosmetic skin for real money if you missed out on the limited time frame?
I'm definitely not a fan of micro transactions overall but I'm generally ok with purely cosmetic ones, within reason. I'm also not a fan of the whole FOMO "I have to have time every day to play a game I enjoy or else I won't get the fun stuff" bullshit.
If for whatever reason you missed out on some skin or some other purely cosmetic thing should you be able to spend like $1 to get it? This helps financially support the game and doesn't affect overall gameplay, just personal enjoyment.