Fediverse

Are mastodon users stupid or just on a which hunt

Yes

The mindless GenAI hate is really off the scales on mastodon. I run a FOSS GenAI volunteer service and was trying to join a popular non-profit on mastodon and the non-profit itself got bulled so much that they dropped us. Some of those scolds even tried to bully me because I run the Fediseer.

Fortunately the lemmy crowd is a bit more reasonable with integrations like these.

Are mastodon users stupid or just on a which hunt?

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Fediverse users are not inherently good people. They're just people.

I mean... if you spend time actually discussing the fediverse, it IS a shitshole. We drove off fucking Alec of Technology Connections for crying out loud.

It is the problem any message board had where the "old guard" get really pissy when they see new people who aren't making the same in jokes and deferring to them at every step. So you have endless bullying and shitposting and so forth to make sure they understand "the community".

Mastodon is still awesome if you mostly get ignored by them but it goes to shit REAL fast once they see people are having fun and it doesn't involve them. Been scaling back over the past few months as a result.

Lemmy is doing a bit better. In large part because most of the horrors are confined to the tankie servers. But you still get the groups of people who make the olde reddit "I am technically correct and you will respect that" crowd seem to be not that bad. It is kind of depressing when the best outcome is often that someone posts a complete non sequitor and then wanders off rather than ACTUALLY have a conversation about the implications of "AI" and astroturfing.

The fediverse is "the internet". Like, in conception, it's taking everything that's publicly available on the internet and making it auto-mirrorable-at-request.

So yes, on some fundamental level, it's a shit show. Because the internet is the worst of us.

Just bullies who unfortunately think they own the place.

Yeah, that was the Content Nation debacle: https://wedistribute.org/2024/03/contentnation-mastodons-toxicity/

What's really sad is that the CN dev is actually a super nice and thoughtful dude. In his jurisdiction (Germany) he could've gone to prison after being caught with said materials.

Not really uploaded. There's plenty of mastodon instances which have open distribution of CSAM or Loli (A look at our blocklist on fediseer can show just how many there are. Non-risky link btw.). All one needed to do is use that service to retrieve one of those posts using its own search function.

it kind of is

Same thing initially happened with BridgyFed: https://wedistribute.org/2024/02/tear-down-walls-not-bridges/

To be totally fair, nostr's whole thing is that users can delete all of their federated data if they want to, so it makes sense if they are upset about having their data copied to a place they can't control.

Not sure how realistic that is with the data being publicly accessible via the web, but I wouldn't be surprised if the they have some kind of license that gives the dmca request the ability to hold a nonzero amount of water. Then again, I wouldn't be suprised if completely fails, either.

It's not nearly a small enough segment, really. It's a fairly significant fraction of the pre-2022 population.

They were excited to see people show up after Musk bought Twitter, but it was a very "now you'll have to play by OUR rules!" kind of excitement.

They derived their culture from twitter, one of the most toxic cesspools ever to fester.