Star Trek Social Club

I was like you once. Then, one day I realized that i really enjoyed watching first contact. It may even be my favourite of all of the start trek movies, original and TNG.

Eventually, I even appreciated insurrection. It is a little more light hearted than the other TNG movies. When the old crew began to feel younger, it just makes you happy.

That being said, I also watched the first star trek movie again recently, which is easily the one I've watched the least of all of them, and I will say I really enjoyed it. Maybe my tastes are just changing. Maybe my mind is going. Who knows.

I feel the same way. I think it's just because the TNG films wanted to turn Picard into Kirk and frankly Patrick Stewart can't carry an action scene (neither can any of the rest of the TNG crew tbh). The TNG cast would have been perfect to do a plot about space whales or a dangerous anomaly flying towards Earth, but they kept trying to do The Wrath of Khan instead.

Also a pox on everyone who says that Motion Picture or The Search for Spock are bad.

I think your last sentence answers it for me.

The TNG movies felt like "big episodes" to me. That said, I still liked them fine enough.

I think while Insurrection and Nemesis are widely agreed as bad next gen movies I would argue they're better than the worst original movies.

If you can't acknowledge Motion Picture as bad I don't know that we can have the discussion on a solid base though.

Echoing what others said: the TNG movies felt like long, bigger episodes. While this isn't a bad thing, it didnt have the finality and "oomph" of the TOS movies.

THEY felt like they had big stakes, which carried from movie to movie, and at least for 2-4 (and 6), they picked up the character abd story arcs.

The TNG movies treated each as a standalone story, which again, isn't a bad thing, but the episodic reset button was no good when you had the epic story of the TOS films.

Of all of the TNG movies, First Contact had it, but honestly Nemesis was the one that tried to bring it and completely squandered that feeling of "this can change the entire galaxy and tie to threads from the series." I always felt like there was actually a better movie in there, left on the cutting room floor.

Reminding me of how much the TNG movies sucked actually makes me a bit less critical of the Picard series.

It's the even numbered movies that are good (2,4,6, First Contact, Nemesis). There's even a TVTrope about it.