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Why were the TOS movies better than the TNG movies? (startrek.website)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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(Not including the reboot trilogy as that's a different altogether topic)

I was recently in a mood to binge the first ten Star Trek films as I hadn't seen any of them in several years, and I notice that the TOS films are better than the TNG films. Which is weird because when it comes to the tv series, I far prefer TNG and its spin-offs over TOS but when it came to the films, it's the opposite. I love First Contact, and like Generations but Insurrection and Nemesis are pretty bad IMO, whereas the only TOS film I truly dislike is V. (My favorites are IV and VI) Was wondering what others here thought, I think this may be the standard opinion in fact.

As for why they're better, I think for whatever reason the TOS movies feel more cinematic, whereas the TNG films were mostly trying to capture the TNG feeling and not as much be cinematic?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot of people criticized Insurrection for being like a two-part episode of TNG (as in: doesn't feel like a movie). But isn't that ... good? It's TNG. We got more of TNG. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I like Insurrection. It's not my favourite Star Trek movie but it's a damn good movie for being Star Trek. Except, you know, when Picard beams off the exploding vessel and lets the villain die because that's what Movie Picard does.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Except, you know, when Picard beams off the exploding vessel and lets the villain die because that’s what Movie Picard does.

They cut the scene of Picard offering to save the villain, because...I guess it's cooler to just let him die.

Anyway, I don't think Insurrection is bad because it feels like a TNG episode, I think it's bad because its shot in a tv movie style with a plot that makes no sense and even kinda craps all over Star Trek's philosophy. I do appreciate they tried to create a Star Trek style moral dilemma though. Generations feels more like a theatrical version of a TNG two parter and is better for it IMO.