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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

They only people I know who play 40k are obsessed with Orks. Dunno what kind of person that makes them, but at least they aren't nazis.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

It might be the same phenomenon as bimbofication / puppygirl stuff, where one longs to be released from the responsibility of thinking

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

> join good group

> look inside

> neo-nazis

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I was briefly into 40k in the 00s, but once the 2010s started I slowly started getting an ick feeling from it but I couldn't quite put my finger on it.

specifically, I was still cool with most of the lore, but the Imperium fanboys were getting to be unfun to be around. As I got older and wised up, I figured out around the same time many others did, that these same people just had a fascism fetish in general.

so with all that said.

Death to the false emperor Let the galaxy burn BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Prosper like Tau shall.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I also played around the same time as you, but by total chance almost our entire group played xenos. I was craftworlds and harlequins, there was a necron player, a tau player, a tyranids player, and an orks player. We had one space marine player, I had a very small grey knights army, the necron guy had a small guard army, and a couple of chaos players. It was quite jarring to see how much GW and the hobby at large focussed on the Imperium

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 minutes ago

i never even got to the play stage. I got frustrated with the cost of materials, and having to learn how to paint, it was like trying to run 2 hobbies at once. ended up selling my stuff. so my interest was mostly video games. and still then, theres only a handful of 40K games I liked

tried it again in the later 2010s, same effect, i wont make the mistake a 3rd time.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 hours ago

It's quite simple really.

If they play the Death Korps of Krieg, who look like this they're probably really nice people.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago

I need that diagram.

[–] [email protected] 256 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

If you ask someone if they are Nazis, and their answer is to get confused and ask about the premise of the question, there is about a 90% chance they are Nazis. Non-Nazis will say, "What? No, definitely not."

[–] [email protected] 71 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (3 children)

If you ask someone who isn't a Nazi if they're a Nazi out of nowhere then confusion seems pretty valid. If there's a premise to it that they understand (by being Nazis or acting like ones) you'd get less genuine confusion.

E: I wasn't talking about the specific case in OP but in general

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

If the context is 40k, definitely not an unexpected question.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Why did the guy feel the need to announce that they are, in fact, Nazis? The giant swastika is a bit of a giveaway

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

The giant swastika is a bit of a giveaway

No, that's just an unfortunate faux-pas

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Is there something about the tabletop portion of the community I don't get? I just like the lore of the universe and if someone asked me if I was a nazi based on that I would be very confused.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago

Think about it this way, if you joined WWII reenactment, you'll mostly come across guys that have a general interest in WWII and will play the role of most factions (including Germany if needed). But you will also run into guys who are enthusiastically on the German side 90% and less happy playing anything else. That second guy is most likely a Nazi but tries to maintain plausible deniability

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I too am confused about the correlation since I've never run into nazis playing 40k. Though to be fair I run slaaneshi chaos so I don't think I'm in their demo of black templars.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

The Imperium fanboys that only play with regular Space Marines, Custodes, and the like seem to be the demographic. If they complain about playing any xeno races, that can be a tip. Then again, some of them are just really autistic. It's not an absolute guarantee, but yeah, the Imperium, understandably, attracts fascists.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Warhammer 40k lore is on the level of racism and genetic determinism that resonates with nazibrain.

Every faction is a caricature and parody of some ideological concept where every member is obligated to live and die exactly as they're supposed to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

That's not at all what I picked up from it. Could you give an example?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 30 minutes ago

I mean, the space marines are genetically engineered soldiers who are locked into their roles they inherited from the primearch who's genetic ancestry they are from, all of which were crafted based on the genetically superior being of the emperor. The eldar and orcs are literally bio-engineered weapons weapons of a race that were basically gods. The Tau have a lot of layers racial hierarchy, bio-engineering, and similar levels of eugenics stuff going on. The tyranids basically just consumer biomass to filter for genes that can benefit their race and incorporate the new genetic data. I mean, unless you didn't pay any attention to the game lore, I really don't know how you missed all this. Like, this is the core of the game lore.

Beyond that GW have straight said that each faction is a caricature of some form of extreme ideology. The imperium are basically theocratic space nazis, the orcs are pretty much how the classical empires, or something like that imperium, see less developed human groups, the barbaric hordes. Etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

Right, in that context it wouldn't be.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (4 children)

Meh depends on the setting. My partner and I are organizing smaller concerts from time to time. If we are about to book an unknown band sooner or later we have to ask the Nazi question.

The setting here feels similar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

what do you look for in their responses?

surely they dont go „oh yeah we are nazis, you got us“

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 hours ago (10 children)

Yeah but even if there's some initial confusion, most normal people will get to a clear negative answer pretty quickly.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 12 hours ago

I would also accept "did you just call me a fucking nazi?"

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