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Direct the "I told you so"'s at media. That favorite YouTuber? It's their fault. Just watched a couple of them complain as if they weren't the problem in the first place.
It was their job to make sure everyone knew the risks. They are advocates, and highly knowledgeable, and ignored those risks when making recommendations. Or at best, downplayed them. Sad, really.
Yes.
You shit on the individual asshole executives. Not the people who got screwed. Not the company, which has no agency and can do nothing. The individual executives, including the board of directors.
Luigi has taught us well.
This.
I got super unlucky here, and this news dropped literally the day after I bought an A1.
I'm still going to try and force it into a usable no-internet state, but I don't have high hopes right now.
Alternative thought - don't worry about hating anybody or anything, just print shit and have fun. I don't regret my A1 for one second.
Pssh. With my amazing, unerring genius foresight, I predicted this years ago. All the dumb, mindless drones should have seen this coming, it was sooo obvious! Plus, I'm a fundamentalist, so neither myself, my friends, nor family use anything but open-source software at home, work, and school.
Seriously, that's how it comes across...
Honestly, I'm just glad that going forward, when people ask which 3D printer to get, it's no longer going to be "Bambu" 9 out of 10 times.
Still gonna be Bambu out of my mouth 9 out of 10 times. This change doesn't affect most of my customers (to put it in perspective, I do over 1k unique 3D printer repairs per year).
I'm still an open source enthusiast/zealot - but the fact is, most "normal" people, don't give a flying shit about this stuff.
This will be a footnote in my suggestions to them, however.
This 100%. Most people just want an easy experience without too much tinkering and bambu does just that.
Doing some research comparing prusa's github and bambu's I realized the firmware was closed sourced and that completely disqualified it from consideration. Also, not being to update without connecting to their servers is a no no. I believe everybody should closely research what they're getting next time they make a purchase. Sorry for all of those who bought Bambus.
I got gifted one, so I didn't choose it. It's a great printer, but it sucks that Bambu Lab is pulling that shit.
Bambu made 3d printing an appliance. Before Bambu there is no way my ~65 year old mother would be able to own and be self reliantly productive with a 3d printer.
Prusa was close, but comparatively much more expensive.
I don't and won't own a Bambu, but if nothing else they opened the world's eyes to what is possible, now hopefully more friendly companies like prusa will learn from it.
Most of the people posting angry rants about this news are not Bambu owners. On the other hand, most Bambu owners have no idea anything has changed, because we didn't buy these printers to mod or install custom firmware on or use whatever slicer tickles our fancy this week, we bought them because they Just Work(tm), work great, and are very reliable. I owned a hobbyist machine before and I just don't have the time anymore. I knew exactly what tradeoff I was making when I purchased from them, so condescending assholes can keep their patronizing I Told You So to themselves: this is not for you, you have other options and that's OK.
Side note: I also run Windows and Linux on my PC. You can diss Windows all you want but it has its uses and you're not winning any friends outside the Linux circle jerk community by being a raging asshole about it. The Bambu hate feels exactly the same.
The people that own them will definitely notice if they start making features require a subscription or deciding that you can't print certain objects.
We can certainly display plenty of outrage when/if that happens. Most of their engineers are ex DJI-drones guys... do DJI drones have a subscription model to fly their drones?
The engineers aren't the ones who generally get to make those decisions.
I agree with you though, no point jumping the gun and getting angry about something that might happen
Yes, but...
I do agree partially with your statement. But (as always) it's a little more complicated.
BambooLab was known for their walled garden approach and that they have apple as their idol. So in that sense, people buying it, did so oftentimes willingly and therefore enabled the company to pull these stunts. I'm not blaming the people for going with the most comfortable solution, but that's usually what you get
That's a very fair point. I also think the massive amount of outrage shows that many people didn't know the full extent of what they were signing up for. So I think is varies from person to person.
I won’t buy my wife a Cricut for the same reason, it is a closed system that the company can decide to nickel and dime at will.
Surprised that they switched to Evil mode so soon, now everyone talks about this, and just a few days ago nobody cared and those who did were the loonies talking crazy.
Presumably now that the security keys are known, it is possible to jailbreak your printer and never deal with Bambu ever again.
I would be highly suspcious of anything running proprietary software and connected to the open internet, especially now that you've got ignorant states like NJ and NY looking to prosecute people who might be making anything that vaguely resembles a gun part.
Same goes for slicers. Some of those don't respect privacy either.
For those out of the Loop, what happened?
DRM They limit who can talk what to their printers.
Most noticeably you can only send and start prints (g-code) with their own program over the network. Either bambu studio or a "cloud" gateway from BambuLab. It is no longer possible to do this from within Prusa- or OrcaSlicer.
my take:
~~ for the X1C they allow to install X1Plus firmware. The community asked for it. BambuLab allowed it back then and still does.~~ At the moment rooting an X1C isn't possible. Either it is a broken promise ("We will give customers the choice to install third party firmware and root system at their own risk.")or just a temporary issue.
BambuLab sad that this will come. Only now that they have done it, most people are starting to notice.
So it sounds like you'll still be able to put gcode on the SD card and start it from there, no?
Certainly. But that's not what the vast majority of users want to do though.
They are good printers. It is just a crappy company showing their true colors... Which is sad for the consumers. Consumers are just the victims here. I never bought or owned a Bambu though. I always went with Prusa and now moving to Voron.
I don't think the printer got any worse ...
I've put it in LAN mode, blocked it's internet access in my router and I don't plan to ever update the firmware. Also using orca slicer instead of bambu studio.
Prints perfectly fine. Worth every penny from my point of view.
( I agree though, that their move is extremely shitty and I won't be recommending it to others because of that )
Bit you know what you are doing, and based on the terms of service, which says they can require updates for use, could be in violation.
I agree, everyone should do this, but everyone won't know how.
Glad to hear you're able to keep using it! No reason to get rid of good hardware. I hope other people do the same.
I don’t get it?
How many people bought a Bambu expecting to legally and completely escape their walled garden?
All the “I told you so’s” and general haters can pound sand, their opinion and irrelevant smugness of something that does’t affect them is irritating.
I have 3 printers. One is completely FOSS, the other two not. I bought the two knowing that I was getting in to someone’s closed system and subject to the whims of the rights holder. Know how much Bambu’s change affects my day? Zero. Still a great printer doing what I want it to. And I also realize that a subscription might happen. Sucks, but I knew that when I bought in. This righteous indignation on behalf of those of us who knew what the score was is ridiculous.
It's not the walled garden that I object to. I had been planning on Bambu until now. It's the mandatory online mode where you won't be able to print without being online and getting their authorization. They used to have a lan only mode.
Yeah this part bugs me the most. So if my internet is down for whatever reason I can’t use my local printer. Fuck you Bambu.
I’m glad you are able to make a different and more suitable choice for your needs.