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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago

It’s not about you Joe. Get the fuck over yourself.

[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He’s angry because he lost his election. I’m angry because I fear we lost our country.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

We are not the same.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago

He's just pissy he didn't get his own chance to fucking lose. Because in his heart, Biden also thinks the problem with Kamala is that she was a black woman. He sees no problem with his policies, his stance on Israel, his willingness to play nice and coy with Republicans, or his impending death. He seriously thinks that only he could "save" America, and that he could have won. All this, despite all the constituents of his party cheering when he stepped down and flooded his replacement with donations and praise.

I'll say it again, rest in piss Brandon. People will compare you to Chamberlain or Brüning, and it will be a disservice to both those men. Your ego caused you to utterly fail your country, and we will remember you as a failure.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why don't you save the country instead of being a moody bitch? It's entirely possible to do the wrong things for all the right reasons, and still be correct

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 day ago

Maximum age limits should be enacted

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Somehow he's not near the top of my list of people to feel sorry for.

Biden has been absolutely consistent about is this belief that he believes that had he stayed in the race, he would have defeated Donald Trump again

And this is one reason why. He was dead weight that held back Harris (or someone more capable that might have emerged if there had been a competitive primary).

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

He is completely delusional if he thinks he would have outperformed Kamala, let alone win the election.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

The best part of his presidency was letting Warren and Bernie do their own things for Labor and Consumers. It makes me wonder if Harris just had no ideas or if Biden (or his staff) was constantly knee capping her.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope by the time the next election comes around, assuming we will ever have another election, that we endorse a new party and completely abandon the democratic party in favor of something like a labor party. Maybe, just maybe, we have seen the Democrats vs. Republicans for the last time.

This country had different parties before, we can have different parties again.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (16 children)

I’m more aligned with Sanders than the democrats. D just feels like neoliberalism protected by identity politics when we need to focus on class issues. Lots of working people can get behind the same idea of wealth inequality. Identity politics has fragmented the focus. I don’t give a shit about Target/rando corp having rainbow clothes: when lots of people cannot afford the clothes, then that’s a problem to solve.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The problem is that there are people who really fucking care about those rainbow clothes. And those people don't think a subset of our population should exist. That's why it's something to give a fuck about.

You don't have to be gay to give a shit about these things. They're talking about ending marriage equality (or "leave it up to the states" which I'm sure won't lead to chaos when states decide not to acknowledge people's marriage certificates).

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago (46 children)

"Forced out." welcome to a primary, Biden. Functional parties have them.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago

And one thing, importantly, that President Biden has been absolutely consistent about is this belief that he believes that had he stayed in the race, he would have defeated Donald Trump again. Now, all of this adds up to, I would say, a mood of sadness and sort of this sense of tragedy here at the White House,” concluded Lee. “Those around him believing and actually hoping that when history judges President Biden years from now, that it will be a little bit more forgiving than how the president is being widely judged, at least today, Jake. ”

Emphasis mine. The level of hubris is genuinely jaw-dropping.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

To be fair though im in a rather dark mood myself.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Would you have felt more or less angry keeping your promise not to run again Joe? Sounds like a you problem.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think the anger needs to be focused on the Democratic party leaders and apparatus for being elitist in their thinking ignoring the constituency and losing the blue collar vote. They have increasingly catered to the college educated with predictable results.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

They have increasingly catered to the college educated with predictable results.

Hogwash. They have catered to the dwindling number of alleged moderate Republicans. There is no reason that you cannot appeal to both the college educated and those without a degree.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 18 hours ago (10 children)

I never stopped feeling angry that such an epic moron was elected president and used it to enable a genocide.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Note: I do not agree with the Orange Cheeto; merely posting the meme.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's hard to be absolutely sure, but I think the chances of him winning were very, very slim.

I know his internal numbers were supposedly very bad, but it's also hard to say how that stacks up with the fact that Kamala is also POC and a woman and we know that is definitely still a factor, unfortunately.

My guess - and without actually holding an election, that's all it can be - is that his results would have been worse than Kamala's.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Joe Biden's internal polling reportedly showed that Donald Trump was on track to win 400 electoral votes in a head-to-head matchup according to one of the pod save america bros

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah I think the Democrats would have lost no matter who they ran IMO. I think Trump won the second that assassin missed and he did the fist pump in front of the American flag. That's exactly the sort of shit people eat up.

And it's funny that Biden's all pissy about it because I think he actually did play it the best way he could to benefit himself personally - by dropping out he wins no matter what. If Harris had won, he'd have looked heroic for stepping aside and 'putting country before himself' or whatever, and now that she lost, he can just say "well I would have won if I'd stayed" which you can't really prove definitively one way or the other.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I think Trump won the second that assassin missed and he did the fist pump in front of the American flag. That’s exactly the sort of shit people eat up.

And the Beast arose from an attack that should have been lethal, more powerful than before.

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