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Apple: You don't need a pen for the iPad.

Artists: We need a pen.

Apple: You don't need a pen for the iPad.

Artists: We need a pen.

Apple: OK here's a pen.

Apple: You don't need a controller for VR.

Gamers: We need a controller.

<---- We are here.

Apple: You don't need a controller for VR.

Gamers: We need a controller.

Apple: OK here's a controller.

It's the same story as with all of VR. People don't like to strap shit to their faces, or anywhere else in their bodies. We barely tolerate watches. Every single person who wears glasses would drop them in a second if any other viable and sustainable alternative shows up. People who use and love VR put up with the fact they have to strap stuff to their faces. 3D cinema failed financially because people didn't want to have to use simple basic glasses. Not everyone can tolerate a third of a kilo on their heads for too long.

USMC kamikaze drone team pilot app, but apple be sleeping on that.

It failed, no need to dance around the subject. It was a very expensive demo product, and nobody wants it.

Porn would be it, but apple scared

Hey everyone, check out my app, you just need to spend like $3500 on this bespoke hardware first!

It's unlikely to find one in this incarnation. It has too many limitations in its current form. Apple knew this when it was releasing it but they had sunk so much resource into it they had to get it out there, at least just to see what people might do. And imagine that, devs didn't want to make apps for it because it's yet another device with a new interface that would need specific attention to make a good app for and with a very small user-base, the return is not there. Chicken or the egg problem which has been very common in the VR/AR realm.

I'm sure Apple will take another crack at the form factor, but it might be another few years down the road. I might've even been interested in this model if it had any momentum at all, but it was mostly dead a month after launch.

If apple would have just supported games from the start and offered optional controls this would be the top vr headset.

In terms of engineering, the Vision Pro is kinda remarkable.

But it's also a extremely dumb product that I'm shocked they thought they could sell, especially with the arbitrary "no gaming!" rod that they made for their own back. Just shows Apple's arrogance, I guess.

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Fundamentally the only unique attribute for these goggles is 3D and that comes at a significant expense in terms of user experience. It's the same story as it has been over the last two centuries.

Stereographic photos in the 19th century worked perfectly well but required a special headset and only one person could look at them at a time. Didn't take off. People prefer to be able to look at two-dimensional photos perhaps casually and to be able to point the things to other people looking at the same photo or to compare it with other things at the same time.

3d movies in the 1950s required special red, blue or red green glasses. Didn't take off beyond a gimmick. 3d movies could not be watched without the goggles.

3d movies in the theatre in the early 2000s. Didn't really get beyond the gimmick level. Lots of people complain about headaches.

3d TVs in the early 2000s required special glasses and the 3D could not be used if other people were trying to watch without the glasses.

The conclusion I draw from this is that people don't like having to wear special glasses or a device strapped to their face, even if it is relatively cheap to produce. Although 3D is nice, it simply doesn't seem to be sufficient incentive to put up with the isolation from other people and the surrounding environment that the viewing equipment invariably requires.

I feel like that’s saying that my computer monitor needs a “killer app”.

It seemed like a straight forward AR/VR device to me. There’s plenty it can already do… virtual displays and apps in 3d space, privately and on the go is just a start… it’s just WAY too expensive for people to want to do so.

That F1 prototype app and the PGA app look pretty neat but are definitely a niche.

They should've made it support VRChat

Isn't a surgeon's "HUD" a killer app?

It's probably a good product, but in niche applications, not for the masses.