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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If Hitler is communist then the Nazi party is communist.

If the nazi party is communist then nazis and supporter of the nazi ideology are communists.

The far right is comprised majorly of nazis and supporters of nazi ideology, then the far right is communist.

The far right has Trump as a leader and have an ideology similar to their supporters, then… Trump is communist.

America, you know what to do with those commies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Red scare, don't let me down now!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago

Consider the martyr Luigi in these troubled times.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 hours ago

Funniest are people quoting Goebbels who said something like that...

Like... Bruh.... You are falling for the tricks of the minister of propaganda of the Deutsches Reich of 1940 in 2025...

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Breaking: self proclaimed genius is, in fact, an idiot.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't his own dad say he was... the R word?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago

To be fair his dad's opinion isn't one that I respect.

But yes. The man has more money than God and basically his entire family has completely disowned him, with the exception of the baby he carries around as body armor because he isn't old enough to know what that is yet.

For anyone else in the world I would hope that would be something of a wake up call.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 hours ago

You Americans really need to do something about this clown coughluigicough

[–] [email protected] 55 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Is this the whole "Nazis were socialists because it's in the name" thing again? The far right love to pull this point out, ignoring the fact that as soon as he had power, Hitler had anyone remotely socialist in the Nazi party murdered so he could get on with the fascism. The name "National Socialist" was a trick to get people on board. Anyway, it figures that Musk thinks Hitler was too left wing, since Musk thinks the whole universe is too left wing. And it's characteristic of Musk that being to the right of Hitler doesn't even give him pause.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

The name "National Socialist" was a trick to get people on board.

Sort of. Hitler didn't found the party, he joined it as a mole in order to spy on it for the military. He ended up doing a lot more than most moles, eventually taking it over and expelling the more socialist (though still racist) founders.

Hitler hated socialists and tried to change the name as soon as he took over, but was convinced to keep the name because it had become a popular brand.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

North Korea is a thriving democracy; it’s right in the name!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

and Baathist Syria was totally a democratic republic

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

McBain to base. Under attack by Commie-Nazis.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

A commie-Nazie is such a weird combi-nation

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 hours ago

The problem isn’t the Elon and co say this. It’s the middle ground people who, for the most part, are reasonable but have little education about politics, and don’t want to participate beyond soundbites.

In this case, the phrase works on two levels.

Most of these people would admit Hitler was bad. So, this reaffirms the statement Communism is bad. Even if they don’t know what Communism is.

For others, Communism is bad. This allows them to hear “We’re not like Hitler” about Elon and Co. They have no idea how bad Elon and Co may be, but at least their not commie pinkos.

The real genius of capitalists has been to persuade the electorate that there are no viable alternatives to capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

The Axis alliance between Italy Germany and Japan was literally formed as an anti-communist alliance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Lost cause of the south levels of willful delusion

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I was looking for this comment. It just shows Elon's lack of knowledge and the will to say anything for the sake o confirming your beliefs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

I suspect he knows, he’s just a bad faith self serving douchebag

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Dear Leader says Hitler was a communist so he was, all of you are wrong!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago

Ah just like dear Winnie The Pooh, who we swear is a good communist, and China is the greatest egalitarian state.

(Ignore our billionaires and Uyghur genocide)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

It's like defining masculinity by looking at Musk.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

It's like defining a sane leader by looking at Trump

[–] [email protected] 112 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Communists were literally one of the first groups targeted for arrest when Hitler came to power in 1933. Like 10 seconds on google.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

To quote wikipedia : The first [concentration] camp was Nohra, established on 3 March 1933 in a school. The number of prisoners in 1933–1934 is difficult to determine; historian Jane Caplan estimated it at 50,000, with arrests perhaps exceeding 100,000. Eighty per cent of prisoners were members of the Communist Party of Germany and ten per cent members of the Social Democratic Party of Germany.

This obviousy proves Hitler had tens of thousands of communists imprisonned in concentration camps to hide the fact that he secretly was a communist/socialist ! /s

[–] [email protected] 30 points 12 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

This assumes Elon is being genuine. He is not. Same as Trump. All the bullshit they spout is about manipulation of their supporters and not about being genuine about their beliefs.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I think it's very possible that he doesn't actually believe this, but instead wishes that his fans, who are always so eager to kiss his ass do, since in the eyes of most people, Hitler was the most horrible person to ever exist, and if Hitler was a communist that'd mean that communists are horrible people.

On the other hand, Muskrat is so stupid that him honestly believing this isn't impossible.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I think Elon believes whatever is most convenient for him to achieve his goals.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 12 hours ago

Fair. It's not like ~~fascists~~ conservatives care about things like logic or truth anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

Braune Scheiße macht braune Scheiße

[–] [email protected] 130 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Breaking: Fascists are fucking stupid, more news at 11.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Corrected Title: Two fascists agree Hitler was a communist.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 hours ago

So she admits that her AfD supporters also support a communist.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Ahh so elon is now publicly declaring he doesn't know what he is talking about.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

Don't think he's actually that stupid unfortunately, this goes deeper than that and is far more manipulative

[–] [email protected] 18 points 12 hours ago

That's what he always does right?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 hours ago

Now? Always has been.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Oh yes. In the early 1900s Nazis waged openly violent political gang war against the communists out of love and similar views.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, all the comments he made about the secret agenda of European jews to spread "judeobolshevism" through communist organizations and annihilate the Aryan race were just jokes about his good friends the communists. Him and Stalin were actually best buddies.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 12 hours ago

It's telling that it needs the second sentence you wrote for me to realize you were speaking about Hitler, not Elon. I don't say he's gone of that far, but it wouldn't have supposed me at all.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Fucking idiots. Does it mean that Trump is a communist?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

So ... then they're both communists too?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

Hitler was an environmentalist. Proof thaf clmate change is a hoax. Trust me bro, I own a social media.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 13 hours ago

Read George Orwell "1984"!

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