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Meta is now granting its users new freedom to post a wide array of derogatory remarks about races, nationalities, ethnic groups, sexual orientations, and gender identities, training materials obtained by The Intercept reveal.

Examples of newly permissible speech on Facebook and Instagram highlighted in the training materials include:

“Immigrants are grubby, filthy pieces of shit.”

“Gays are freaks.”

“Look at that tranny (beneath photo of 17 year old girl).”

The changes are part of a broader policy shift that includes the suspension of the company’s fact-checking program. The goal, Meta said Tuesday, is to “allow more speech by lifting restrictions.”

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While Kaplan and Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg have couched the changes as a way to allow users to engage more freely in ideological dissent and political debate, the previously unreported policy materials reviewed by The Intercept illustrate the extent to which purely insulting and dehumanizing rhetoric is now accepted.

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Kate Klonick, a content moderation policy expert who spoke to The Intercept, contests Meta’s framing that the new rules as less politicized, given the latitude they provide to attack conservative bogeymen.

“Drawing lines around content moderation was always a political enterprise,” said Klonick, an associate professor of law at St. John’s University and scholar of content moderation policy. “To pretend these new rules are any more ‘neutral’ than the old rules is a farce and a lie.”

She sees the shifts announced by Kaplan — a former White House deputy chief of staff under George W. Bush and Zuckerberg’s longtime liaison to the American right — as “the open political capture of Facebook, particularly because the changes are pandering to a particular party.”

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Another policy shift: “Referring to the target as genitalia or anus are now considered non-violating and are allowed.” As an example of what is now permissible, Facebook offers up: “Italians are dickheads.”

While many of the examples and underlying policies seem muddled, the document shows clarity around allowing disparaging remarks about transgender people, including children. Noting that “‘Tranny’ is no longer a designated slur and is now non-violating,” the materials provide three examples of speech that should no longer be removed: “Trannies are a problem,” “Look at that tranny (beneath photo of 17 year old girl),” and “Get these trannies out of my school (beneath photo of high school students).”

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According to Jillian York, director for international freedom of expression at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, Meta’s hate speech protections have historically been well-intentioned, however deeply flawed in practice. “While this has often resulted in over-moderation that I and many others have criticized, these examples demonstrate that Meta’s policy changes are political in nature and not intended to simply allow more freedom of expression,” York said.

Meta has faced international scrutiny for its approach to hate speech, most notably after role that hate speech and other dehumanizing language on Facebook played in fomenting genocide in Myanmar. Following criticism of its mishandling of Myanmar, where the United Nations found Facebook had played a “determining role” in the slaughter of over 650,000 Rohingya Muslims, the company spent years touting its investment in preventing the spread of similar rhetoric in the future.

“The reason many of these lines were drawn where they were is because hate speech often doesn’t stay speech, it turns into real world conduct,” said Klonick, the content moderation scholar.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 minutes ago

Never interfere with your enemy while they're making a mistake...

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 hour ago

to be fair, these statements are true ; but only because it applies to everybody

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 hour ago

I'm a bit sad that many people here on Lemmy who have a lot more freedom of speech think this decision is bad. Less moderation should be considered a good thing. The internet has always had the rule that everything on the internet is a lie. That's how I grew up with it anyways. And how it should be.

The examples they gave are nothing more than examples. I don't support those comments whatsoever, but in the context of allowing more free speech and using it as an example or as a guideline, I fully understand it. Moderators should be unbiased.

People don't realize that these examples have been cherry picked for a narrative. The media wants money and politicians want power. It goes both ways. "Right wingers are a bunch of fascist shitheads" would also be allowed. But that does not really get a lot of sensation going now does it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 hours ago

Would be a shame if people reported the fake deaths of billionaires, politicians and celebrities. See if they keep with the no fact checking.

Most likely this is just a change demanded by orange man after Zuck bent the knee.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 hours ago

This is basically Meta saying "we're OK being a tool of right-wing propagandists, and have no problem with their bullshit impacting elections, because it'll make us boatloads of money."

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Israel is commiting genocide.

How about that?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Antisemitic hate speech!
-Zuck the Cuck, Donald Trump's Human Toilet

Times like these make me grateful for you lot.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

So they basically reinvented the COD lobby on Xbox 360, circa 2007? Shit’s gonna be wild.

I do kind of miss the old internet where everything goes. Was it wildly offensive? Absolutely. But everyone gave as good as they got. I’d rather have a place that’s a bit too permissive than one that censors every opinion to death.

Still, fuck Facebook, Fuck Zuck & Free Luigi.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago

I do kind of miss the old internet where everything goes.

It was fun but it built up to shit like 8chan and kiwi farms. This is why aliens won't talk to us.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, letting COD dudes call each other gay, and being generally mean to each other, you could argue, is a part of the game. If you don't like it. Don't play COD.

But in real life, if you have vulnerable people, that suddenly have a target on their back, it's not going to end well for them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Oh definitely. And it’s going to be an issue with people using real names. I’m not gonna be too bothered by ‘xXPussyslayer420Xx’ calling me a slur, but if it’s Bob Smith from my own city, I might just go over there and shit on his doorstep.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Insurance CEOs are immoral.

Billionaires are garbage.

"Pædo" under Kavanaugh

Donald's a dickhead, complete with pubes.

Meta's a bog, and Zuck is its boggart.

Free enough?

(Too bad I don't have an account to test it out.)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Donny has no pubes, he’s a child.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I was referring to the rat's nest of pubes on his head

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

Ohhh his yellow pubes. Do you think it’s that color because of the tanning lotion?

Here’s a horrible thought: Donald trump wet. Shudder. Like, what do you think his thin hair would do?!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Republicans are grubby, filthy pieces of shit.

Conservatives are immoral.

Christians are child-sacrificing, pedophilic ghouls.

——

Test the algorithm with these and see what happens.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago

Be careful, jeffw might ban you.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Are users also free to post about the fact that Zuckerberg fucks his Roomba every night after everyone else at his house has fallen asleep

[–] [email protected] 15 points 16 hours ago

You forget he dresses up as a Roomba docking station for the act.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

When users instantly turn it against Zuckerberg, will they be as accepting?

Totally how a normal human drinks water.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Oh no the second people use it against CEO's and Zucc it'll be instantly banned

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

They'll call it "cyber terrorism" and make it a mandatory 15

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago

Gonna get removed here too. .world are a bunch of capitalist simps

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago

Y'all are fucking blind if you don't think this is more about money, because they are losing huge swaths of mentally retarded Republicans moving to Twitter and TruthSocial because they can hate on minorities easier there.

Meta is simply trying to appeal to those pieces of shit to stay on their platform so they can sell more ad revenue.

Occams Razor.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

You were allowed to before, they never took down content under the old "rules" anyway.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yes for some reason Lemmy needs to take the high ground, and we can’t say “zuck needs to die”

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago

B-b-b-but think of the poor marginalized billionaires! They didn't choose to be better off as fertilizer or pig feed! It's the poors who are wrong! How can someone with all that money be wrong?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I'm glad to live in a country with laws against hate speech.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago

Can you please adopt me and my family?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That lil bitch gonna be orange before long

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago

Always was.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

I'm guessing this push to prepare the network for politization comes either to normalize the way Xitter has behaved and/or possibly substitute it in case Felon Musk is able to get it banned in Europe. It's so ridiculous that this comes after all their effort from the US to ban TikTok, like, y'know you were the ones to create the precedent to ban social networks doing shit like this across international borders ... right?