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Toyota-owned automaker halts Japan production after admitting it tampered with safety tests for 30 years | CNN Business::Daihatsu, the Japanese automaker owned by Toyota, has halted production after admitting it falsified data in safety tests for its vehicles for 30 years.

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[–] [email protected] 151 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Odd that they put "Toyota-owned automaker" in the headline instead of Daihatsu. Or something like, :"Daihatsu, owned by Toyota".

Whether the problems go "up the chain" to the parent company is TBD, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Well you'd have to have gotten a lobotomy to want to buy beats in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's a pretty good reasoning for this in the article:

"an independent third-party committee had found evidence of tampering with safety tests on as many as 64 vehicle models, including those sold under the Toyota brand."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

And, presumably other brands that come from Daihatsu plants. Assuming the safety issues are only within Daihatsu facilities, that's the key information. "Daihatsu, a Toyota subsidiary" or similar conveys the useful information. "Toyota-owned automaker" does not.

As it stands, it sounds like CNN is trying to vaugely imply that the problem applies to Toyota generally, which obvs will get a lot of clicks from people who own Toyotas. That's sloppy clickbait.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

TIL Daihatsu is still around. They stopped selling cars in my country about 30 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Daihatsu basically sells rebranded Toyota cars with cheaper price, but with smaller engines, lower trim level, etc. They also sells cheap commercial vehicles such as small pickups.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And with worse safety, it would appear.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Very bad press for Toyota. Hopefully they will take the necessary steps to fix this.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Indeed, even worse consideeing just last week they recalled a ton of vehicles because of faulty airbags, and a month ago issued another recall for 12V batteries catching fire

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There's always recalls going on, so it's not indicative of anything when they happen.

I've had 3 newer cars from 3 brands in 3 countries, and all 3 had a recall of some kind. In each case they just bring it in and fix it...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

I'd much prefer a manufacturer that issues recalls over over one with a perfect track record. No one is perfect. At least one of them is acknowledging and fixing their mistakes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's when they don't do the recalls like Chrysler with their Pacifica minivans. That van has so many problems and the customer ends up paying for the repair. The harness corrosion behind the bumper, The grille shutter, hybrid coolant pump, electric ac expansion valves and I just had one with a crank position sensor code with the hybrid charging system making an awful racket with 9000 miles. Most of the problems I listed are usually under 30k miles. I didn't even get into their other vehicles. There's a reason Consumer Reports listed them as one of the most unreliable.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Really good point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

The Toyota Way isn't working.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Or rather bad press for Daihatsu, who this is actually about.

The headline is terrible and misleading.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

I guess people will cheat and hide it everywhere.