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I have been toying with the idea of various types of videos, including intermediate level painting videos, video game retrospectives, and some personal worldbuilding project videos. I don't want to feed the YouTube machine, but also don't want unsustainable expenses. I've looked at a few of the various not-YouTube alternatives but it is difficult for me to get a good read on that landscape.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

~~Their instances take forever to be approved. It has been over a week for me.~~

Edit: I checked and the instance I requested an account with does mention there is a wait-list for approval. I just created one on makertube.net right now that says it should be approved in about a day which is more reasonable. It seems OP could create one on that instance. The Fediverse has alternatives for almost anything.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Minimum expense to you is YouTube, but your videos will be their product which is fine for some use cases.

There are fediverse video platforms, but their longevity is not guaranteed.

You could host your video content on AWS S3 and have it mirrored by the Wayback archive. There is a cost to hosting on S3, but it's not massive.

I use S3 for my audio podcasts and import them into YouTube, it's available on archive.org

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You can also upload directly to archive.org; not so great for streaming to a large audience, but good for archiving for public access.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

This might be something to think about since I'm contemplating making videos I promote directly to Lemmy and/or to my blog subscribers. I want to have a page, but I am not concerned about growing and audience for the profit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I think PeerTube is ideal if you don't want to use YouTube. The first selling point is of course Fediverse integration; the second is that it's peer to peer, so that hosting costs don't increase much if many people are watching at the same time.

The hardest part is to find a suitable instance (assuming you won't self host), but it should be doable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

That's interesting, I didn't know that.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

Peertube is pretty much it right now. Anything else is more expensive or YouTube.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

PeerTube is the obvious one.

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PieFed doesn't host video files so you'd need to put them on S3 or wherever (imgur is fine if the video is small/short enough like in this video https://piefed.social/post/366849) and then create a post with the url to S3 as the post url.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is the sort of thinking I'm looking for although videos area projected to be 30 minutes to an hour.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yeah, that'll get big fast so you'll need some service that can give you a publicly-accessible URL to your files. There are endless discussions on the internet about cheaper alternatives to S3... Consider Backblaze - https://www.backblaze.com/cloud-storage/pricing or Cloudflare R2 - https://www.cloudflare.com/developer-platform/products/r2/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Someone suggested AWS S3 but that is ridiculously expensive. How much viewership do you expect? Self hosting is not that expensive unless you have big volume. Or you could just seed some torrents. I would stay away from "platforms" since afaict they all have the same disease as youtube, just in its less advanced stages.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

I love how most of the responses you are getting are pure cope with the fact that hosting costs business. But yeah, unpaid labor is the answer guys.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I've watched some things on odysee, but also heard some pretty problematic things. I don't recall the details but I think they have had issues with filtering neonazis and something about sketchy ownership. Hopefully someone here will correct me.

That being said, there are some open source and privacy communicators there. Louis Rossman and Naomi Brockwell come to mind.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

but I think they have had issues with filtering neonazis

Any platform that proclaims itself to be a censorship free zone is going to attract nazis and other undesirables.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Didn't they abandon decentralisation a while ago?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

I think there was a plan at one point, but yeah. Not one of OPs requirements, but something we should all consider.

The videos are going to go somewhere. YouTube is not ideal, and peertube is basically still closed unless OP is lucky enough to get onto a stable instance.

Vimeo is basically for corporate video hosting now. DailyMotion might be an option although I never really used it.

I'd guess odysee is one of the better alternatives

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

If you go the S3 route, look into compatible alternatives. Cloudflare's S3 compatible service is much cheaper, for instance.