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[–] [email protected] 132 points 1 week ago (9 children)

We need browser extensions to kill those tags automatically.

[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Firefox I believe does. If you right click on a link, it says something like “copy link without tracking”. It should do away with queries in the URL, but I’m not completely sure.

https://www.trishtech.com/2024/10/how-to-disable-copy-link-without-site-tracking-in-firefox/

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This is definitely what it’s supposed to do (and a great feature) but unfortunately it doesn’t work that well. Have tried this many times, especially with Amazon links, and it seems to be a bit inconsistent in its effectiveness.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Good to know.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

You probably also need to clear your cookies as well. I can't really see this being done only via GET

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yeah, I cannot imagine any reason they wouldn't use cookies to track this. The moment you arrive via an affiliate link they're going to know that that's how you got to the site for that session.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

That's not going to work for links sent by text or whatever.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I don't understand. Cookies and request method are two different things. You can set cookies on GET.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

If a platform gets traction and is good at removing them, then links will be more obfuscated to deal with it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Oh nice, that is pretty new, but will have to see if it works on those gumroad links. I have an offline script (not a browser extension, I haven't bothered figuring out how to write those) that edits urls to remove tracking and it's quite a pain, since there are dozens of sites and tracking schemes it has to know about. Also, rather than creating a pasteable url, a suitable browser extension should just rewrite the link automatically before navitation when you click on it.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

uBlock Origin filter or ClearURLs for example.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the case of uBO, just search for "url" in the filter list and you should find it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

The URL tracking filter list is nice but it doesn't seems to include anything related to gumroad domain or parameters.

https://filters.adtidy.org/extension/ublock/filters/17.txt

You need to add it yourself.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

An uBlock Origin custom filtrer should do.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks, I have that too I think. It's great for sharing from my phone. On my laptop I have a python script that is a lot fancier that I'd like to rewrite as a browser extension someday.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

For those of you with Apple devices, I’m pretty sure current versions of Mac OS and iOS remove tracking arguments from URLs when you use cut/copy/paste/share.

https://9to5mac.com/2023/06/08/ios-17-link-tracking-protection/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

This is about removing tracking arguments that identify users, this is not the case here.

The example in your link even show it's keeping campaign tracking arguments. So I'm pretty sure it would keep the one we are talking about here.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For those of us living under a rock, what's Gumroad?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

An online ecommerce platform.

It's similar to Etsy. Targets smaller creators, values individual-made goods, but focuses on digital content, like soundtracks, 3D assets, etc.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I remember reading about Gumroad it used to be mostly for NSFW art, but they did a Tumblr and banned it. Maybe this is related to the loss of revenue.

Edit: found the article

https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/15/gumroad-no-longer-allows-most-nsfw-art-leaving-its-adult-creators-panicked/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Taking 30% off of physical goods sounds criminal to me.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

OK, I think the real solution is that I'm never using Gumroad again. Sad, as some really good dnd stuff was there

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago

https://bsky.app/profile/stargazerbird.pmd.social/post/3ld4tz3hllc2u

Based of that, it sounds like it’s affect people who had opted into the boosted discovery since that was already a thing and that was 30%+. The simplified wording doesn’t help but I’m feeling this got way blown out of proportion. Humanity does that nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What a terrible platform, I knew they would get desperate after banning porn.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They banned porn?? I used to follow Gumroad's founder on Twitter, he seemed like a good person.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Yep, there was a rush over at kemono party to try and archive gumroad stuff that artists sold there because it would be hidden/deleted.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A dumb policy with perhaps an even dumber implementation. Basing profit sharing percentages off query parameters 🫨 ?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That’s how basically all affiliate links work.

This time it’s just the merchant getting more or less from the creator. vs doing the split with the linker and the merchant.

Also 10% is pretty low, normally merchants take like 30% cut by default so they have plenty to share.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The parameters are how you get to the store.

If the creator is driving the traffic, Gumroad takes 10%. If Gumroad is driving the traffic, they take a commission of 30%

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I understand that. That approach is just really easy to manipulate.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Not any more than any other tracking method. They control it all.

If anything, the fact that they give you a method to alter how your purchase is tracked so you can still give the creator 90% when you get to them through their store is pro-creator.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Never heard of that platform before, is it US only?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm only familiar with Gumroad because a lot of artists use it to sell their VRChat avatars and 3D printing files. I wasn't keen on the fact that a few items I went to buy weren't actually still for sale and the only thing telling you this was after you attempted to make the purchase.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Lots of blender extensions are on gumroad, especially "pay what you want" ones.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

No, it's just one of many. I've purchased stuff from gum road before.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

These artists should switch platforms because the query string isn't the only way they can track attribution. If they see people doing this they will just switch to something else if they don't already use another method as well.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'll just skip the whole place

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

some of us have been ever since gumroad worked with st*netoss

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Enshittification seems damn inevitable these days.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

I’m sorry to disappoint, but this will most likely not work. As soon as you make such a request, a session is created, which is stored in the cookie. And if they are real big asses, they only use the IP address to correlate the user to a session.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But did you try in this case? Because it doesn't seems to have a sanitizer handling gumroad, in fact the sanitizer list is quite limited.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Oh you're right. I thought you could add your own. Either way they push updates regularly, I bet if someone asked for a specific one, or maybe asked to be able to add their own, they would do it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are you sure a new tab is necessary? Simply removing the tracking data and hitting Enter should be enough.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Probably an abundance of caution. I'm pretty sure referrer headers wouldn't be sent if you modified the URL and that's the only concern I can think of.

*For a new tab that is. Cookies aren't going to care about a new tab unless you open a private one first.

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