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[–] [email protected] 210 points 1 week ago (31 children)

When talking about the making of Jojo Rabbit (a must see movie, in my opinion), I remember Taika Waititi making a point out wanting to represent the colourful fashion and more lively sides of Germany under the Third Reich. War movies tend to portray Nazis as dark and dull figures with no inner life other than murdering Jews and plotting for world domination. This is probably dangerous, as we won't recognize the fascists when they're in front of us. They'll be laughing and dancing as they murder the innocent.

Similar to how we study Eichmann to learn about the banality of evil, I think pictures like this one should be in every text book. This is what evil looks like — pretty much like anything else, if you're willing to ignore the atrocities.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Jojo Rabbit is recent very rare 10/10 from me. Absolutely amazing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought it was shit, that's interesting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

“Here grab this grenade and go hug someone that doesn’t look like us”

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Highly recommend The Zone of Interest as well. An unusual film about everyday life of nazis.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Very different from Jojo Rabbit of course, but fantastic for showing what humans can come to consider the trivialities of ordinary life.

I'm very happy I saw it in the cinema. Also very happy I was somehow completely oblivious to the thematic when the movie started: I first saw the swimsuits, thinking "huh, is this the 30s?". Then I heard the German, at which point I realized nothing good was going to go down. I guess the sound during the intro also gave a hint.

Anyway, amazing movie. Worth seeing without distractions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Came here to mention Zone of Interest. Incredible film.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Good to not forget that normal people are capable of atrocious behavior.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Normal people are very adaptive to the boring routine, may it be counting inventory or counting skulls. I'm pretty much afraid not of psycos who do evil things intentionally, but of normal people who do them 9to5 without a thought, and then go back to shopping, care for their children and elderly, and resting like that.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago

the occupants of the internet use a similar photo as a joke all the time

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

And it all meant this: that there are hardly any excesses of the most crazed psychopath that cannot easily be duplicated by a normal, kindly family man who just comes in to work every day and has a job to do.

Vorbis loved knowing that. A man who knew that, knew everything he needed to know about people.

-Terry Pratchett - Small Gods

(Finding the actual quote was really hard, SEO spam has ruined google, and the LLMs kept hallucinating things that were near, but not real... I had to actually search the raw text of the book)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Once I tried to look up the song that was playing in a part of the book Mila 18 when this one nazi soldier was taking a bath. I encountered the same problem as you, never did figure it out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Oberfuhrer Alfred Funk soaked luxuriously in a deep warm sudsy tub and sniffed the rising scented steam. The tones of Wagner's Tannhauser "Overture" crashed in from the phonograph in the living room. Between low points in the crescendo Funk could hear the sound of gunfire from the ghetto. He hummed in tune. "Da dam dam dam."

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Just ordinary people living their lives. That's what makes the nazis so fucking horrifying. How they managed to make their people disassociate from the atrocities.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Humanity has rolled along in its uniform ugliness for all of known history. The idea of godliness, or any other aspect of divinity imbued in our mortal forms is a mere mockery of reality- the earliest, most essential marketing spin.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

That's why I love the Milgram Experiment

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are at least three Gertrudes in this picture.

This is right up there with that Imperial Japanese soldier smiling his ass off with two comfort women on his knees.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Do you have a link to that picture? I'm not good enough at web searching, evidently.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You just don’t want to be added to a database, right? Safe Search: Off

Slightly different, but I’m 90% sure this is the one I was thinking about.

You’re welcome. Looking at some of the other results gave me mild nausea.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's something so fundamentally fucked about those pictures where everything looks harmless unless you know what you're looking at.

Thanks for digging it up. I cut my search short before even disabling safe search, still saw things I would be happy to unsee.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's what horror movies are made of... Familiar, safe scenes where you know something is deeply, horribly wrong.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Yes, good horror movies. The ones where the horror isn't some lame supernatural bullshit, but just regular ol' humanity doing realistically evil shit.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

Just a reminder that admin staff are just as guilty of war crimes as soldiers.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

The banality of evil

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

Ugh, teambuilding exercises. Am I right?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

10% of people are decent, 10% evil and the other 80% will just go where they think is best for them - Susan Sontag

An unrelated example, an estinated 11000 people die every year in Australia from transport pollution, try and redo how we do things based on that horrifying data ? Crickets and push back, 30 a fucking day for decade after decade, way more then any war or terrorist event. Oh we are gassing jews, gays and gypsies, of course we are!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-24/air-pollution-modelling-university-of-melbourne-traffic/102015778

Traffic pollution likely causes more than 11,000 premature deaths in Australia a year.

Now back in Madison Square Gaden a few years before the posted photo

And then to a Trump supporer

History doesn't repeat but it does rhyme.

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