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When talking about the making of Jojo Rabbit (a must see movie, in my opinion), I remember Taika Waititi making a point out wanting to represent the colourful fashion and more lively sides of Germany under the Third Reich. War movies tend to portray Nazis as dark and dull figures with no inner life other than murdering Jews and plotting for world domination. This is probably dangerous, as we won't recognize the fascists when they're in front of us. They'll be laughing and dancing as they murder the innocent.
Similar to how we study Eichmann to learn about the banality of evil, I think pictures like this one should be in every text book. This is what evil looks like — pretty much like anything else, if you're willing to ignore the atrocities.
Jojo Rabbit is recent very rare 10/10 from me. Absolutely amazing.
I thought it was shit, that's interesting.
“Here grab this grenade and go hug someone that doesn’t look like us”
Highly recommend The Zone of Interest as well. An unusual film about everyday life of nazis.
Very different from Jojo Rabbit of course, but fantastic for showing what humans can come to consider the trivialities of ordinary life.
I'm very happy I saw it in the cinema. Also very happy I was somehow completely oblivious to the thematic when the movie started: I first saw the swimsuits, thinking "huh, is this the 30s?". Then I heard the German, at which point I realized nothing good was going to go down. I guess the sound during the intro also gave a hint.
Anyway, amazing movie. Worth seeing without distractions.
Came here to mention Zone of Interest. Incredible film.
Except maybe for children and the dumber types, most people already know what evil looks like. They are willing to pretend, so what more lifelike portrayals will do is irritate them.
A non-negligible portion of the electorate, unfortunately.
The latter portion, which wants portrayed evil to be grotesque and not like reality, because they are not going to avoid evil anyway, is even bigger.
I mean, I don't like fools. Like half of my family are terrible fools. But the "smart" people with no idea of kindness, fair conduct or at least sport are worse, and in my experience more common than fools, not less.
It's the guys who twirl their mustaches or have skulls on their uniforms, isn't it?
Didn't forget the eye patch and scar.
No, it's the "neutral" types. Who are all good when the guys with skulls are defeated, and all compliant when the guys with skulls are in charge.
Guys with skulls themselves are usually more peculiar types, not really discomforted by open public discourse. Just not limiting themselves to any moral boundary. You'd probably find them interesting.
Speak for yourself.
Considering how much fascism is on the rise globally and the results in the latest US election, most people do not in fact recognize fascism. Nor see it as the threat it is
People still do not call russia a nazi state despite the obvious either.
Or the zionist regime.
Yeah, most people don't realize that both candidates were genocidal fascists. Completely unaware.
I do. I have. Hence my previous comment.
Ugh, why did I ever bother replying to such a dick?
I've been calling out this fascism for years. Not sure how that makes me a dick, but okay.
Maybe it’s not enough for you to call it out.
It’s good that you do this, but other people need to learn to recognize it for themselves. I don’t see why images likes this would hurt. The only evil many of these people committed was not thinking for themselves and taking a moral stand. Instead, they got by as best as they could.
I’m not trying to excuse them, but understand them, and that’s part of the problem right now. The current crop of right-wing idealogs think that nobody understands them, except for people like Donald Trump. That’s why the democrats lost.
People can only learn to recognize fascism if other people point to it and describe it where it exists.
But that’s not enough. Please tell me what more I should be doing.
Ask the people you label as fascists what they are upset about. Listen with empathy and not judgement. When I’ve done this, many are not as far right as they think.
It’s not enough to judge people as fascists. Anyone who agrees with you is likely in an echo chamber, and those who disagree with you are in another one. This is what it means to know your enemy
Great, I'll make sure to "understand" while they're rounding people up and putting them into camps.
It seems like you don't have any other ideas. Your warnings have apparently fallen on deaf ears so sure, try to make them understand. Unless you have a better idea.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_boxes_of_liberty
Yeah I'm familiar, I'm right behind you.
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Because you aren't in a society made of people, its just you and your decisions here apparently.
You know all about me, don't you?
Calm yourself, little droplet. It is not your movement alone that makes the waves.
Sanctimonious is more like it
You recognizing it isn't enough. We need more people to recognize it too, dipshit.
What do you want, a medal?