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[–] [email protected] 110 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Boeing managed to wave enough money to entice Kelly Ortberg to be their new CEO. Surely UHC can do similar.

Ortberg knows he's there to be the scapegoat. He'll eat crow in front of the media and Congress. He'll push layoffs and cost cutting and draw the ire of the unions. When he leaves, the next CEO will point the finger at Ortberg for any remaining problems. And he negotiated a salary to match.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

No one shot the Boeing CEO yet.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 weeks ago

Every Boeing issue in the history of flight combined haven't shortened as many lives as insurance CEOs on any given week of the year.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah there’s a mountain of difference between getting publicly chewed out and getting publicly executed

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Ethiopians and Indonesians live too far to be a threat for Boeing senior executives and board of directors

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"Golly gee, getting reprimanded that one time sure did stink. Oh well."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

"You will be shot!"

"More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

He’ll push layoffs and cost cutting and draw the ire of the unions.

Nope they pay McKinsey to recommend it, then use the excuse that "as CEO I have to do what is best"

If you want to know more about McKinsey ask Pete Butteigig, he was one of their "whiz kids".

[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

No..greed will prevail

Now how they act might be a different story.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I think we need about two more within the next month to have an impact on CEO risk calculation. Of course the guy is definitely going to get caught if he strikes again.

Cops have one singular mission: protect rich folks. They will pull out stops we've never seen before to get this guy if he looks like he won't stop on his own. He'll probably get caught anyway, but if he's smart he'll take the W and disappear.

Of course, the most likely result isn't a change of behavior, but having bodyguards be part of the standard CEO compensation package.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Leaders at Allied Universal, which provides security services for 80 percent of Fortune 500 companies, said their phones were “ringing off the hook” on Wednesday with potential clients. Allied covers a wide spectrum of services — including stationing guards outside offices, chauffeuring executives, surveilling their homes and tracking their families.

Protecting a chief executive full time costs roughly $250,000 a year, said Glen Kucera, who runs Allied’s enhanced protection services.

NYT article

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago

Protecting a chief executive full time cost roughly $250,000 a year

So it costs less than one major life saving surgery then.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

$250k a year?

That's it?

Sounds like it needs to get a bit more expensive.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If assassins started going after the guards, those guards might want more danger money.

For legal reasons, this is an observation not a suggestion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

If I ever wanted to ruin a megacorporation for ruining my life, I'd start going after the lowest wrung of the ladder. Give two warnings and then execute the plan on them. Non-fatal accidents and the like. Warn again. Move on to the next one. Warn them etc. Repeat as long as necessary. Never go for the higher ups that can afford security.

This will probably never happen to me, because I don't live in the late stage capitalist hell-scape.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My hope is prospective school shooters see praise given to The Adjuster and change their MO so innocent children are spared.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

That's a great perspective! I love it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

1 is an off chance. Two more and their will legit be fear that the poor are rising up to eat the rich.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Imagine holding the title of "CEO of the healthcare company whose CEO got fucking iced last week"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They literally don't care. They aren't like us. They don't care what working class people think. They don't care if we suffer. They don't care if they die. We aren't worth anything to them beyond what they can extort from us.

"I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half."

--Jay Gould

This statement reflects Gould's view of exploiting divisions within the labor force to maintain control and suppress labor movements during the Gilded Age. Their attitude since then hasn't changed, except to become even further entrenched in their apathetic greed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

I was interested in that quote, since it seems incredible:

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/10/29/hire-half/?amp=1

tldr: it originally appeared in slightly different form in a newspaper article by a critic of Jay Gould about his failure to get a particular policy through, and was probably not something Gould said in so many words.

Interesting though!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

There were 15 underlings hoping this would happen on a weekly basis for their shot.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, some other psychopath will just demand the company provide 24/7 private security and take the job with a raise. Then (likely he) will just kill more people to pay for it.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago

So many CEOs on LinkedIn calling for more security for executives. None of them have the self awareness to think "is my company doing anything that would warrant such a response?". Maybe stop being evil fucks?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'll take the job. But, fair warning, a lot of people will receive free healthcare.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Yea... That is what is the most funny. A CEO that knows how to play his cards could easily turn the system around and still have a profit..... Like of 30% instead of 98%.....

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah, money is money... but they'll probably need to include a security detail in the package.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago

Passed on to the insurance premiums

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not at all. They’ll just beef up security.

No doubt the other insurance companies are doing the same. CEOs are probably hiring personal body guards to follow them too. I’d imagine this extends to CEOs of other industries outside of insurance too. They know they’re all seen as unpopular with most people.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Step 1, get hired by security company...

:D

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I was going to say, no fucking way does this work like they hope it will.

Numbers are against them. Far, far against them.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

No, and they will find ways to screw users more. Corpos are not anyone's friends.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

Countries have dead leaders that get replaced all the time, what makes corporations replacing CEOs any different?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

Trouble? No, but they’ll raise the compensation to compensate for risk, which will only attract greedier more sadistic candidates.

Or…

They’ll hire a woman to clean up the mess (possibly at reduced compensation), because that’s the virtue signaling what corporations do when they are in a tight spot. Then, once she has turned things back around, they’ll swap a man back in and give him a bonus for all her hard work.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Companies have plans in place for continuance, so I'm sure they have a person that can take over in an event like this, even if it's just temporary until the board of directors chooses a new ceo

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

This is correct. There's absolutely a SVP/EVP or board member ready to take up an interim role while they work their way through the process of a new CEO.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

Not if this was an isolated incident. If it turns out to be something else then maybe.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I sure as shit wouldn't take that job.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I would, then I'd just shitpost on LinkedIn about not doing evil things until they fire me for not being evil.

Golden parachute here I come. Honestly, this was on them, they clearly don't do enough background checks.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They'll just keep a security detail. It won't even be a consideration. They'll just do it, and not even care that it happened.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Contrary to popular belief, CEOs aren't necessary for a company to run, but they do maximize the profits while they're there

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

They should make a whistleblower the ceo so they can have plausible deniability when the ceo is murdered

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

No, someone is jumping for joy at the promotion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

I think the situation is quite the opposite. There is now an opening and I bet several people see this as an opportunity at advancement.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Not until 3 or 4 replacements are murdered. Then they will attempt to operate without one. (For as long as legal.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

They’d better do it soon too. The stock has already dipped 10% in two days.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago
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