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Mozilla's position on WEI is pretty solid.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Mozilla try not to be based challenge (impossible)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's funny, I always kept Firefox and Brave (yes I'm aware its chromium and full of fuckery) installed. But as soon as this news broke, before it was even confirmed, I swapped back from Brave to Firefox as my primary. Fuck Google for this. They're just truly not the company they once were.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They never really were the company they claimed to be.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh god no, never said otherwise. But for years they struck this equilibrium between evil and quality of services offered in exchange. That value had been rapidly deteriorating for the last 5 years or so. It's just sad to see is all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Will keep supporting Firefox 👍👍👍

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why do I feel like it isn't the death of the internet as we know of, but rather the sharding of the internet. The corpo plaza internet is clearly emerging, we have to make sure we support and hold up the everyone else internet

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

With banking, streaming, there isn't really an easy alternative. This could be a locking out that could be quite disruptive.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm outta the loop on this whole situation, what's going on?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Web dev here. It enforces the original markup and code from a server to be the markup and code that the browser interprets and executes, preventing any post-loading modifications.

That sounds a bit dry, but the implications are huge. It means:

  • ad blockers won't work (the main reason for Google's ploy)
  • many, if not most, other browser extensions won't work (eg.: accessibility, theming, anti-malware)
  • people are going to start running into a lot of scam ads that ad blockers would otherwise prevent
  • malicious websites will be able to operate with impunity since you cannot run security extensions to prevent them
  • web developers are going to be crippled for lack of debugging ability

These are just a few things off the top of my head. There are endless and very dangerous implications to WEI. This is very, very bad for the web and antithesis of how it's supposed to be.

TBL is probably experiencing a sudden disturbance in the force.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm not saying you're wrong or that Web Environment Integrity is a good thing, but a primary source and citation is needed for this statement:

It enforces the original markup and code from a server to be the markup and code that the browser interprets and executes, preventing any post-loading modifications.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Read between the lines, dude. Ad blockers work by observing and analyzing the DOM for elements presenting or containing ads and subsequently removing or obscuring those elements by manipulating the DOM. There's no way for WEI to carry out its purported goals without forcibly preventing DOM manipulation.

There are absolutely no conceivable benefits for users. None.