If your business can't survive without my tips, you don't have a viable business.
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But also, if you can't survive without my tips, you're probably working in the American service sector.
I don't tip businesses, I tip people. Some of those people own the business.
If you underpay people to rely on tips, you're just playing the game on a harder level.
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Fuck all tipping. Fuck unclear prices. Fuck variable service.
Put clear prices. Expect consistent service. Pay fair wages.
If it's about low pay. Why not expect businesses to pay fair liveable wages like every other industry?
If it's about quality of service. Why do you not expect good service every time? Why do you not also tip your doctor for good service or the construction workers who ensured the roads are good for you to use?
Idiotic inconsistencies and morons everywhere defending it. Only in recent years are people finally taking notice, but 10 years ago oh I'm an asshole for suggesting tipping should be banned in favor of consistency, clear prices, and fair wages.
A lot of tipped workers defend it because waiters can make good money for their qualifications, but what they don't understand is that they should be making that amount of money without requiring tips.
The problem is that when a restaurant increases prices, they don't share the extra income with the staff.
Hell, Subway has doubled the prices in like 3 years AND started asking for tips for the staff.
I mean, if you're the asshole for suggesting it, then I'm right there being an asshole with you. I still tip, because I want the people who serve me to be able to take care of themselves, but ideally, that shouldn't be my fucking responsibility. It should be their employer's. It's a fucking barbaric system that puts service workers' ability to put food on the table in the hands of entitled Karens and reduces them to begging for a decent wage.
There's a cider bar that opened in my town recently with a strict no-tipping policy, and holy shit, is it ever refreshing to not have to deal with that rigamarole.
If it were about quality of service, you would tip before receiving the service. The waiter doesn't know how much you're gonna tip, so their quality of service will never change.
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I bought a couple of sweaters online today, and the order form asked for a tip.
No.
There's an option to tip at the self check out at my grocery store. The fuck ám I tipping? It's self check out. Am I tipping myself? Fuck these people
You're just giving the large corporation a little walking around money, for their wonderful service, of profitably running a store! You're so nice!
You're tipping the kiosk that provided the service. I guess.
Great, can we get one that can scan things the first time? They can scan one thing maybe every 10 seconds.
Or maybe a more responsive OS, like something that’s not Windows.
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I'm no longer tipping just because the stupid kiosk asks me to and making me feel guilty... If it's not a normally tipped position such as server, bartender, or barista, I'm going to default to tapping no. It's gotten ridiculous.
A vape shop I go to added it to their checkout kiosk. These people are literally just ringing up my purchase for me like any other retail cashier. I fucking hate it because they just stand there staring at me as I'm forced to decline the tip as if it's reflective of their service and not the fact that it's a bullshit system.
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This is the dark side of Nudge theory. People need to practise refusing and it will stabilize. I tip handsomely when I want to and I refuse when I don't. Sometimes I feel irrational guilt. I sit with the guilt for a while, then it's gone.
Tip when you want as much as you want and no more. Refuse to listen to anyone who tells you that this is morally wrong.
Peace.
Fuck all tipping.
This. Make people quit their serving jobs because of the lack of tips. Create a demand for servers that forces employers to actually pay a living wage.
Every single time you tip you are perpetuating this system. Stop.
Nudge theory is bs
No other comment on your content, may be right or wrong.
And yet, people are presented more often with a meaningless request for tips. Sounds like Nudge to me. Plz bring evidence.
(Edited to remove superfluous irrelevant claim that might not be true, anyway. I regret the error.)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudge_theory
Critique -> no evidence
I see that now. Thanks.
It looks like we have a plausible mechanism and no evidence yet. I wonder who is trying to gather more evidence. My money is on nudging having nontrivial effect, but I might sleep better if I knew it didn't. Either way, people will try, and that's where we are.
In that case, we fall back to the impact. All the more reason to advise folks to resist tipping unless they actually want to---to interpret the requests for tips in unexpected places as little more than an optimistic, misguided, or even accidental attempt to nudge. It's the judgmental stories that people tell themselves that seem to tie them up in knots. Let others judge you for not tipping, because they were going to find some way to judge you, anyway.
We can practise resisting. I recommend trying.
Oh I'm a huge asshole tipper I dgaf.
I think there's probably some mechanism backing it that is real, but right now it seems like the original nudge authors are just trying to defend their concept.
There's a fun if books could kill podcast episode about nudge in particular which is where I learned. This is why I say I can't comment on specific effectiveness in one instance or another, just that the nudge concept hasn't been proven.
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Being overwhelmed with tip prompts has broken my tipping guilt. I feel like half the time people work don't get or see those tips.
Sit down restaurants absolutely. Delivery yeah.
Pick up nah, you walk something 2 feet to me nah. Fuck tipping culture, pay your people right and charge accordingly don't keep tacking on shit, tip charge, service charge, every other fucking sneak at the bill only charge now a days.
I was at a sit down recently where the lowest tip selectable without entering a dollar amount was 18%. 10% used to be the standard for competent service, 15%-20% for outstanding service. Now the quality of service is worse because they're underataffed, and they expect me to tip more?? Get real.
The lowest "suggested" option has crept up to 20% in many places. A 15% tip is already adjusted for inflation. Now you want 20?
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Don't forget to tip your landlord!
Other than the idiotic healthcare system and politics, tipping is probably my least favorite thing about the US. No-tipping works elsewhere, and it can work in the US.
Apparently there are now tip prompts on digital payment terminals for payday loans…
I've seen them on rent payment sites
They seem to be confusing shelter with bottle service.
With no taxes on tips (if it actually happens), expect a HUGE increase in tip expectations.
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Yeah, us neurodivergent people don't get dopamine hits from that kind of thing. We know the money isn't really going to the worker in many cases anyway. It's just going directly to the business to pay their employees normal wages which should be part of the cost of the product, not an add on charge. It just means they didn't have to raise their prices with inflation.
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I've stopped shopping anywhere where tipping is required. Tyvm I'll order online and pick up my food myself.
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I still tip, but if I see a tip screen I clear it and then add a tip or not or tip cash
I hate that tipping culture is a thing in the US and wish the culture would change. But as a former waiter, I'd never take a job at a no-tip restaurant (or even a pooled tip restaurant) because I always made higher than average tips than my coworkers.
If you were still waiting tables, what would you have done/felt had tipping been outlawed? Change of jobs, looked for something at a certain rate of pay for waiting?
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