Unreal is creaming their pants this week. They can't have imagined a better sales pitch.
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they just have to unveil some new shiny tools to convert from unity to unreal and unity is kill
There will never be a tool to convert Unity projects to Unreal. However there are already several to convert Unity to Godot, because both use C#
Edit: And as a dev that has used both, I just converted my project to Godot.
Edit again: It actually may be possible or at least be made easier using LLMs to convert to Unreal
How much work was it to convert ?
I guess the tool didn't managed every single detail ?
Sadly it can’t work that way. From a programming perspective alone they are very different engines.
Unity uses C# while Unreal is C++.
We chose unity because we thought unreal model was shitty too.
Next time it's open source, godot or stride or i don't know, but not unreal.
They would have done the same shit if it worked
I've honestly been surprised that Godot's getting a lot of hype out of this. I had expected MonoGame/XNA to be the big beneficiary -- particularly for Unity's 2D users, but also 3D (though I expected Unreal to benefit the most there just because of developer familiarity).
Godot is the closest alternative to Unity.
Unreal is kind of a different beast on a different market, more complex and more geared towards big 3D games with high-end graphics.
Unity worked on consoles. Godot don't offer that.
Directly no but that's because its legally impossible to.
So a lot of services exist that'll do it for you, cheaper than unity pricing model yet (or you can do it yourself it just takes effort)
There's even a company created by the godot devs specifically to fill this void, and the profits go back to development
They have been at the right place at the right time.
Never heard of MonoGame but from what I see, it's much less noob-friendly, no editor etc. Looks too different
MonoGame/XNA used to be more relevant 10 years ago, but not so much any more (funnily enough, in large part because Unity ate their lunch).
It's still pretty relevant. Some of the biggest indie hits of the last several years used it (Stardew Valley, Celeste, Supergiant games pre-Hades).
MonoGame has the advantage of being used to ship a number of indie hits, though. ~~Supergiant still uses an in-house fork of it for their games, if I'm not mistaken~~ (ed. I guess they rewrote their engine for Hades).
MonoGame is basically a continuation of Microsoft's XNA which was their engine for the Xbox 360 era. It supports the full Visual Studio (not "Code") so that's the environment you get.
Except Unreal already had the same kind of pricing structure that Unity is trying to move towards, that’s why Unity thought they could get away with it.
Ticketmaster is another real world example we've got right now. Or any service that adds on arbitrary fees that aren't a part of the advertised price.
Ticketmaster is a monopoly that should have never been allowed.
Do we know yet if unity's plan won't work?
Games take 3-5 years to make.. you can't change engine mid-development so it'll literally be years before they see any negative impact - during which time they'll be making bank.
From their point of view that's a success.. shareholders care little about long term sustainability.
Developers are on the hook for potentially infinite losses without gaining revenue in a per install fee system. Expenses are entirely unpredictable for developers and bad actors can run basic install scripts to cost the company a lot, so if Unity stays their current course for a few more weeks, many of the larger developers using Unity will begin switching engines even if it means delays. It's absolutely worth it for a developer to port their game over no matter the cost, because they are easily looking at no limits to their costs if they don't
The right-to-repair movement is showing us cyber-feudalism will fail in time, as is the failing BMW subscription seats thing. We may be moving into a golden age of service and media piracy in which households throughout the developed world simply resort on cracked services. We may be using cracked ink cartridges and illegally-jailbroken refrigerators until they realize the compound public resentment and ingoing war against pirates is cutting more into profits than is gained from rent seeking DRM
We've already seen how the efforts by the record lables to litigate against children and elderly can go poorly and just increase piracy (or worse, decrease engagement).
But it means we'll have to suffer more as the paradigm shifts. Capitalists are not allowed to relent when it comes to profit seeking, making them the enemy of the people. And a government that favors commercial corporations over the public (as is the case in the US) is also, by definition, the enemy of the people. It means any transaction is predatory unless there is a force acting in the interest of the worker and the consumer that effectively dissuades contracts without parity.
