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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

The API is so cheap someone is going to do it anyways...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, I remember when Reddit promised similar things...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

Nah, first you gotta get comfortable for a couple of years.

It's basically pig butchering for social networks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago

"we promise ;)"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

To be fair, "they" could probably train AI on Lemmy data, they just won't ask for permission and won't be charged for it

[–] [email protected] 34 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago

"Bluesky has not been offered enough money to scrape user data for AI"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

They also said it was decentralized which is not true.

I don't believe this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

well there's a protocol but everyone is on the main one, i don't think theres even a non personal instance.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Bluesky is VC backed. They'll want to make money down the road, and they'll definitely train AI soon if not already.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe the VC's are dying soon and they wanted to do something useful with their exorbitant wealth before they die

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

Well, it will train it's AI on everyone else's posts. Just not your posts.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

Who owns this? Another insane rich, right wing techie?

[–] [email protected] 121 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Oh it will as soon as the investors demand more ReTurN oN iNvEsTmEnT.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Then we leave that platform too. I have zero loyalty. Zero.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

But they'll have stragglers just the same as any major social media site. Even though many here have standards they won't easily abandon, there are scores of people that won't even know if/when AI started being used on the site or would care enough to leave if they did.

Plus every time we leave a platform we need to find or build a new one. The time it takes to get others to migrate and develop into a worthwhile community is hard to predict and it may not even work out. It sucks social media is such shit anymore, but it seems inevitable that it will remain that way given the landscape of the Internet at this point.

I say this as someone who's drifted from Fark to Digg to Reddit to Lemmy over the past 20-25 years 🎈 (zero loyalty as well)

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago

Won't train AI on your posts ~~until we reach critical mass of users~~.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Well, WE won't train on your data. But this subsidiary company we created on the other hand..."

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or one of our 12675 carefully selected partners

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

* lube can be removed without prior notice

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's open to the public. So, many other orgs are certainly doing it anyway.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The same can be said of lemmy, mastodon or any publically accessible forum

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

Absolutely. I worked somewhere where we routinely had alarms go off due to botnets swarming us with weird (and obnoxious) massive download tactics (of publicly available user generated content, that is).

If it can be gotten by anyone, it will be gotten by LLM trainers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've yet to hear a good argument for why it matters even if they did. I've made thousands of comments on Lemmy that are free for anyone to grab and do anything they want with. If I didn't want people to have access to them I wouldn't be posting on the first place.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If I didn't want people to have access to them I wouldn't be posting on the first place.

there's the catch: it's for people. not robots, not billionaires

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Makes no differencr to me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Why is this taking off but not Mastadon?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 20 hours ago

It's easier to use and has a recommendation algorithm.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Barrier of entry is marginally lower. With mastodon you'll have to make a decision on what instance you're creating your account. With Bluesky there's just Bluesky.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Yep. 100% this.

Bluesky has the hyper casual "barrier'" of entry that Twitter had

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

With bluesky ,the sign up has a section where you choose a server. The bluesky server is prefilled. Otherwise you add your own.

But not having that default option and instead having to have the user go research and figure out which server to use is an immediate turn off.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Which marketing and better how, exactly?

Can anyone please point me an example of Bluesky marketing that isn't word of mouth or large-event headlines on the news?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago

no, this place only circle jerks about the fediverse blindly and hates anything with a modicum of attachment to reality.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Why not? Are my posts not good enough for you Mr Bluesky?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Sounds exactly like something that someone intending to train an AI would say.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago

BlueskAI on the other hand...

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

Trust me bro, just keep shit posing on here, we won't change out "ToS"

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If the AT protocol allows public access to content, they can’t create a proprietary training set. But the content is available for anyone who wants to add it to a public training set.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

But did they pinky promise?

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