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I doubt anything comes of it, but here's hoping.

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[–] [email protected] 148 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you're an EU citizen, please take the time to sign this citizen initiative to stop killing games. It could be our best chance of preventing such situations in the future.

https://www.stopkillinggames.com/

[–] [email protected] 100 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If they release something with paid content, I should get to have that paid content forever, or get a refund. 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Cries in MMOs from 20 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Last week I downloaded Dark Age of Camelot which I have not played nor paid for 20 years, and my character was still there. I was really not expecting them to keep the data for so long without any payment.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I understand why most companies wouldn't do that, but they should be forced to open-source online games that get shut down or otherwise made non-functional.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

At minimum they should provide copies of the software to anyone who paid a subscription, and then enterprising individuals would figure out how to get private servers running

[–] [email protected] 54 points 4 days ago (3 children)

If you buy a game, which you cannot use in single player mode, without internet access, you are signing up for this happening to you too, one day, guaranteed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

I mean, that's basically all AAA games in 2024. Even songs PC ports which historically avoided DRM and network requirements is starting to mandate PSN accounts. I 100% would prefer to be able to play offline, more often than not it's unwanted telemetry or BS bloat but that isn't something we as users can enforce.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

"You're gonna hate the way it feels. I guarantee it."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

At this point I'm afraid only government intervention would help (with citizens asking it to do so)

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Buddy......government doesn't give a shit about video games. They got wars to start. People to exploit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I think the department that protects consumers isn't busy with wars

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Ok......4 hours of sleep a night is officially not enough. I've been awake for about 2 hours now, and read that as

Grandma sued for shutting down her crew.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

Username checks out

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Granny ain't fuckin around

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Close enough

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Reindeer begin keeping tabs on her whereabouts in response.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Out of curiosity, did anyone sue bungie for doing the same thing with destiny's Y1 & Y2 content?

I was one of those dumb bastards who bought the game and DLC back in 2017

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago

It gets to be way harder to argue in court when it isn't a "clean kill", using Ross Scott's words, so The Crew is going to be one of the best examples we'll ever get for courts to rule on. I expect Ubisoft would rather settle than let this one go that far though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I imagine a lawsuit would likely bring up the topic of how hard it would be for a developer to keep the game around past purchase.

For instance, imagine a massively multiplayer online game; everyone playing the game is acutely aware of how much server hardware is needed to maintain that online presence, and it's unrealistic to assume it would exist forever.

That's probably why attention was pushed onto The Crew. It's a racing game that shouldn't need much from a server, so it's arguably unfair to tie it to that access and take it offline.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

it's unrealistic to assume it would exist forever.

Older multiplayer games would let you self-host the server, long before the current trend.

Ubisoft doesn't have to continue to host servers. They just have to release the server code. Zero cost to them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

zero cost to them

I would imagine it would reveal how sh*tty the ubisoft code bases are and has a reputation cost XD. But if it's that big of a risk then they should keep the servers running indefinitely.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I mean, they don't have to release the source code. A compiled version would be fine.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Pirates have managed to run servers for tons of MMOs. The only thing stopping people from running servers themselves is that they're not made available.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

That's why companies shutting down online games need to be compelled to open-source or at least provide binaries for their servers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Don't get it wrong, the reason The Crew was the perfect game to start the movement is solely because Ubisoft is french, a country that has pretty strong consumer laws that they aren't respecting.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Like Ross said, since they are suing in the USA better to not get your hopes up.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Only fair I hope it'll cost them a lot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

fuck yeah here we go