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Fuck America, I'm done. We're getting what we want. Democracy, liberty, and personal freedom; no thanks
this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2024
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At least he won the popular vote, so it's well and truly want the majority (who cared to vote) wanted this time. It would be much more frustrating if he lost the popular vote like in 2016, where the minority in votes had control of house, senate and executive branches. This time it's what people wanted, and people somehow voted for fascism instead of the status quo.
I know Antifa really wasn't an established group like the proud boys, but I'm joining antifa. I'm radicalized, I'm afraid.
Muscle memory in action.
This analysis on Tildes was spot on: https://tildes.net/~health.mental/1jwf/american_election_mental_health_thread#comment-e0uw
Perhaps if we had embraced the working class whites 20 years ago, things would be different today. Perhaps we could have working and lower class folks of all backgrounds voting for abortion rights, women's rights, labor rights, and gay rights. Maybe they would be our most loyal allies. But instead, we abandoned them and let the wolves pretend to be their friends.
A key takeaway for me is that when people of color and those in inner cities turn to violence, crime, and drugs, we blame the oppressive system for their failings. When people in rural America do the same, we blame them. Just because someone is white doesn’t mean they don’t need sympathy and compassion. We’ve lost the thread of love and acceptance in this country.
And it seems the ability to math. All this blame (it was always going to come to this blame game) being pointed at this or that demographic seems to miss the point that the popular vote was won by trump, that does not happen if the majority of voters did not vote for him. It seems crazy that people can blame the white men in the country voting counter to woman's overall rights, but not blame woman who voted the same way.
People forget that women can be misogynist too. It's pretty common in the church.
I swear people forget women are capable of independent thought, and are people with the same qualities and failures as anyone else.
That was helpful, thanks.
Is it ok to criticise the Dems again?
Considering they are now completely irrelevant and about to be wiped from government all together, sure.
Democracy is dead because America would rather elect a male that jerks off a microphone than a woman.
Already heard “unlikable” again last night. Right. Fool us once.
It's this. America cannot fathom that a well qualified Black woman could be better than the most basic of white men.
Could you imagine if SHE had sucked off a mic? People already didn't vote for her because they thought she slept her way to get where she is.
Thing is, I'm sure if the only thing different was Walz on top of the ticket and Kamela on the bottom, and the campaign was ran the EXACT same way. Trump would have been defeated in a landslide.
One of my big hopes was if they won, it'd open us up to a potential Walz presidency in the future. I was all aboard with Kamala herself, but Walz? That'd be sick.
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Keep blaming the politicians but everyone who didn't vote helped Trump and everything he will cause. Blame the Democrats all you like but it'll be you guys who suffer. Instead of voting for the lesser of two evils y'all just stood aside out of spite and let the fascist through. Disgraceful.
Ha! I voted dummy. My vote did count too because I supported an ammendment that will help protect woman's rights. Unfortunately I live in a state that doesn't get over represented in a presidential election so even if you were right you would be silly to excuse me of anything.
Don't be fooled. Trump won because over 70 million Americans would rather have him than a woman.
Sure, and this is why Trump won. The backlash vote against this ignorant rhetoric.
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I'm hearing trump didn't add any supporters. This whole thing was a failure in turnout. I won't say America isn't deeply sexist because I'm not stupid. I will say that voting just to have a women be president, no, that was not enough and it wasn't enough in 2016 either.
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I'm not American. I live in Europe.
But I'll give an insight. Socdem party lost support for most people because they systemically failed to address the issues of the working class.
People can have empathy for other people's problems. But when no one cares about your problems a ñnd election after election they ask you to vote them because empathy to others, and never for your own good, because they never do anything for you. And your life keeps getting worse and worse, and still they refuse to address your problems, and keep wanting your vote just for "stopping fascism" or "being solidary"... You can do that for one election, maybe two... But at some point you just phase out, you just cannot care anymore. If they don't do anything for you, and you need something being done, you just don't vote.
And seeing the low democratic turnout in the US, I think it may be the answer. Maybe people that didn't show up yesterday is people that needed their problem solved the last 4 years and they just got ignored by the Democratic party. So they just didn't vote the Democratic party out of spite.
I will actually probably won't vote in my country next election. Fully knowing that the conservative and fascist parties will win and form a coalition government.
But SocDem and Communists have been ruling 8 years and they failed to address my issues. I cannot, in good conscience, keep giving them my vote knowing what they are doing with it. I just have my dignity. I will stand against the altRight on my own terms when they'll raise to power if necessary, but I'll refuse to give my vote to anyone who didn't deserve it.
Socdem party? When have we ever had one?
Pretty spot on from my perspective. I did vote but it was more because there we're two proposals on the ballot that I did care about. If not for those I would have probably skipped voting. I'm just exhausted at this point because my life has continued to worsen as long as I've been an adult and everyone's fixated on LGBT and other shit that doesn't even affect me or most of the other people that feel the need to have an opinion on it. We can just let people live their lives... What about housing, healthcare, wages, and all the other basic quality of life shit that helps everyone?
On top of that my vote for president didn't matter anyway because the district I'm in would always go red and for most of the local positions there aren't even democrat or even 3rd party options.
I dont understand that sentiment... i mean yes, i agree the parties should absolutely do more and listen to their voters... but the fact of the matter you have to play the game because the alternative is worst. You think noone listens to you now? What makes you think letting the opposition win will do for you? It will only make your life worse.
Do you think the governments in 1930's europe appeared out of thin air? No, they were elected until they held enoigh power to consume total power. Literally tens of millions of people suffered all over the world because people became complacent.
Dont ever give up hope vote for the lesser evil and push for more grass roots movements so the lesser evil will become the even lesser. If you dont, you may never have that freedom again.
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I live in a deep red state where my vote effectively does not count. Yesterday morning, I woke to an absurd amount of hip/back pain and could barely stand up. Yet I still drug my ass to the polls and stood in line for my turn to vote.
Whatever happens, I blame the fickle morons who stayed home. The parties, platforms, politics, etc. are what they are, if you can't be bothered to at least vote for the lesser of two evils, then you deserve everything you get.
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The fact that Trump was chosen for a president, might be a nice clue that Americans live in a idiocracy now.
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