It should be mandatory that all electronics be recycled by the manufacturer or seller, and the cost of recycled should be reflected on the product price.
this post was submitted on 05 Nov 2024
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Hats off to the dude for not wasting the batteries. However, I would not want ass and balls near those cheap Chinese made lithium batteries.
aren't pretty much all Li(Fe)Po cells made cheaply in China?
That's a fair point, but I still don't want them near my taint!
Yeah, disposable vapes should be made illegal, not only are they lowering the bar for the access because they're cheap and accessible to minors, not only because they are an e-waste, but because it wastes valuable lithium, also those are perfectly chargeable batteries, is a bit fucked up that it's more profitable to use rechargeable lithium batteries than something disposable
is a bit fucked up that it's more profitable to use rechargeable lithium batteries than something disposable
That's because the global manufacturing industries have almost exclusively gone over to lithium-ion batteries. Disposable batteries are ceasing to be commodity items. It's seriously difficult to find a D cell battery these days.
My evil side wants them to be more popular where I live so I can collect massive amounts of lithium batteries for free
Disposable vapes will be banned in the UK starting in June 2025.
Based.
Just wanted to comment that this should happen faster than in a few years... and then checked the calendar
Still there's no reason to wait that long. Ban now the supply to the stores and full ban on 2025 if they still have stock.
It's very normal to give businesses a short period to make arrangements/sell off stock.
They were never going to pass a law that banned them right from that second.
This is a good move. The damage that will continue to happen for the next 6 months or whatever is miniscule compared to the damage of just allowing it to continue indefinitely. Hopefully other countries follow suit.
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They should never have been allowed in the first place
I'm angry it took this long. Should've been banned the second they came onto the market.
Those little colored flavored vapes are IMHO one of the worst vapes. Once they're done, there's no replacing the flavor. I see them often at the rehab I work at. I've seen some with replaceable flavor cartridges, but those are also bad due to the excessive plastic waste.
I'm all for vapes as a means to quit, but they're also excessively used as a means of maintaining the habit.
I’m not a vape user, but the model is the kind of thing that just makes me so angry.
In a world that makes sense:
- small, mostly metal vape chassis
- rechargeable, replaceable battery
- built-in glass reservoir with charging valve
- vape juice sold in medium to large recyclable cans with standard interface to the charging valve
In a world where Profit is God (the real world):
- disposable chassis
- disposable battery
- if it’s refillable at all, it’s via non-recyclable, mixed material, mostly plastic, proprietary cartridges and you can save 5% if you subscribe online for refills, 10% if you pay yearly, $5 credit if you refer a friend on social media using hashtag #smoovape
- probably gives you turbo cancer because the juice is made in a repurposed Freon plant that was inadequately converted and they just don’t answer the phone when the FDA or EPA call
We used to have a great vape market for those types of vapes. Since 2020 state and fed government has rinsed the market “for the kids” and basically created what we see now, a market of 98% disposable sold by overseas companies. Before that there were countless brands making batteries, tanks, etc. now a lot of smoke shops don’t even sell refillable vapes or liquid.
Yeah it's a shame. I've been vaping for 14 Yeats now and seen the whole story unfold. It really sucks.
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The first thing you described is literally what we used to have. God I miss the good old days of vaping.
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Yeah tbh I've never really seen anyone successfully quit through vaping. Nicotine pouches or lozenges are much more effective imo.
I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions, but like you said, the vast majority of people vaping are just maintaining.
I did. It took a while because I enjoyed it so much, but it worked better than anything else. It simulated the smoking experience, tasted great and was a fun little device to tinker with. Sure it made me look stupid but in return I got healthier lungs.
Of course I was wrapping my own coils and used a mech mod, the concept of a juul made it so stupidly easy to vape without understanding how it works and just programmed everyone to use cartridges.
And here we are.
When used correctly to wean and taper, vaping can be really helpful as a quit smoking aid.
In my experience many of the people who haven't quit are self medicating for attention or depressive reasons. Of the folks I know who vape about half were diagnosed with ADHD later in life (30+) and quit after finding a stimulant medication that worked for them. The rest are unmedicated and self medicating with nicotine and coffee or energy drinks. Self medicating is overlooked in virtually every discussion about nicotine and I'd like to see it considered more often when the topic comes up instead of just leaping straight to "nicotine use bad" or "nicotine users should be punished" like most discussions do.
Edit: there's also some interesting research re: nicotine's neuroprotective properties that gets lost in the prohibition fervor
Assuming non-wasteful delivery methods, I'd still call that a win as vaping is generally less harmful to the health of the user.
Quitting is of course preferable, but I support harm reduction policies in general
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I would design the pack with a thermal fuse of about 60 degrees C stuck between each 3 cells.
This way if one of those crappy cells start overheating the fuse should prevent it from going into thermal runaway.
To be fair the supposedly reusable pod kits only lasted me about a month or maybe two before whatever sensor that activates it when you draw breaks (what's wrong with buttons) .
That said all these disposables should at the very least be rechargeable it's truly stupid to buy something with a single charge I bet half of these are sold at about 60 percent or so battery and who will know.
I much prefer buttons, except the one time a button got stuck and it continued to heat until the plastic melted in my pants. Shit needs a safety shutoff too.
Honestly the entire idea of disposable vapes should be scrapped.
Honestly the entire idea of disposable vapes should be scrapped.
I think I know to which european union you can write a letter to to ban them
I actually had that with the first ecig I ever bought with the draw activation (looked like a cig but blue light, itactivated in my pocket and I needed to throw it sharpish).
Yeah agreed nothing should be disposable with a lithium battery. I've just the feeling a lot of vapes are just designed to die as fast as possible even when it comes to reusable stuff .
Any disposable I've bought that doesnt have a recharge port the battery was dead with at least 20% ejuice remaining.
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cool! in no time at all, disposable vapes will usurp cigarette butts as the #1 form of litter across the globe! but in all seriousness, god bless this guy. hopefully his example will inspire people to be slightly less careless and slightly more cognizant of how they dispose of their waste (audience laughter turns to applause)
Perhaps it's odd, but I have never seen anyone use a vape in public. Nor have I seen one just lying on the ground. I maybe need to get out the forest here and visit civilization for a bit again.
They are super common where weed is legal. People fly into somewhere like Denver for the weekend to catch a show. Rather than buying a reusable battery, they will get a disposable vape (and probably some gummies).
Then it ends up in the landfill or as litter. I am in favor of making these one time use electronics illegal (along with single use plastics like balloons, plastic silverware, etc.. but that is another thread)
They aren't even disposable, so it's crazy to me how they can be sold as such.
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Despite the larger size and bright colors, they're a bit more discreet than cigarettes. Most places that ban cigarettes equally ban vapes, so they're often concealed more. That probably has a spillover effect to areas they're allowed. They're only activated when sucked, so, unlike a cigarette that's burning whether you suck it or not, most people take a puff or 3 of vape and then go a few minutes without it. It's not as obvious as a person deliberately smoking one whole cigarette.
But maybe they're not around you. I think the other comments covered the locations well enough, sarcasm included. But if you suddenly smell something sweet like fruit or cereal, casually take a look for someone vaping
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Go to a nightclub sometime. Discounted vapes in the outside areas are a tripping Hazard.
Gigs and concerts are pretty grim for this now too.
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really? they're almost as common as cigarette butts once were now. are you a hermit?
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I guess you’ll have to start spending more time in high school bathrooms.
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I so so want to purchase an ebike.But the companies don't seem likely to stick around for long though.
You pretty much should only buy one from a shop that has a physical location near you and can do repairs. Like everybody around me sells Trek, so if I ever got one, it'd be a Trek with a Bosch motor. Bike shops will not repair ebikes they don't sell, even though they'll repair regular bikes. And neither Trek nor Bosch are going anywhere.
My problem with Ebikes is the number of regular bikes stolen. No way I want to haul a ebike up and down my basement stairs a couple times a day.
I'm going to build one. Total cost will be >$1k for the mid drive motor and battery (not counting the bike itself), but it'll be way faster than the street legal stuff they sell at stores. They're dead simple since they're just bikes with a motor and battery pack, so any shop could work on it.
If you want something cheaper, there are other simple retrofit options as well.
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