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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No one called her derogatory epitaphs, totally unrealistic. Also more SA threats need to be there and a few death threats.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

They were probably in the Reddit comments though.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

I get what the comic is saying but from my experience men dont ssy this because thats the whole problem with mens mental health, tho women do get ignored but not in favor of men just generally. Point is the world is shit, and yes everyones mental health is shit.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I feel like men do have it tough and when men start talking about it, they get shutdown and told to be a man. Boys dont cry afterall. So some men may feel its unfair when women speak up and are heard. So they want to make it about them. In the comic, just as the men are dismissive of woman problems, she is dismissive of mens problems. Instead of attacking an unfair weath class system, we bicker about shupid shit like men vs women. Its not race, gender or sexuality we should be discussing. Its social, weath classes.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago

she is dismissive of mens problems.

Not as presented. She's being actively interrupted and trying to stay focused on her original topic.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

The time to talk about men's problems is any time you like, except when a woman has just started talking about women's problems. If you redirect a conversation about women's problems, you're telling the women that you don't care about their problems. If that's the case, fine. Just don't contribute, and let people who want to discuss the women's problems do that. Start another conversation about men's problems elsewhere.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

You still hear "man up" a lot and it's fucked up.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Ppl that make these kinds of comics clearly do not socialize with others irl. This only happens online with other trolls, from everywhere on the spectrum of whatever group. But irl, most people are pretty decent.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago (9 children)

The internet is part of real life. Internet trolls are real people behind their screens, and they live somewhere. Maybe they live far away from you and near this artist.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

If you're a digital artist, your domain is the internet. Your audience is the internet. Your medium is the internet. In that case, you'll write about the internet.

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[–] [email protected] 311 points 3 days ago (25 children)

Honestly, I agree men's issues do need to be seriously discussed, but it's wrong to hijack discussion about women's issues to talk about men's issues. The reverse is also true.

[–] [email protected] 117 points 3 days ago (19 children)

I've actually seen the opposite happen more often than the former. Both online and irl. A guy starts complaining about things and a cacophony of women show up to tell him how he'll never understand what it's like to be a woman.

Whenever I do see the opposite and when the guy interjects all that's said is "there's a time and a place to talk about men's issues" but like when is it then?

[–] [email protected] 64 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Yeah I really don't see the situation in the comic often at all. I won't say it doesn't happen, but I've personally witnessed way more of this reactionary diversion when men are discussing their unique issues.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I agree with this and I'd also add that bringing up men's issues to try to silence discussion of women's issues then harms men as well because people associate discussion of men's issues with that type of shit behaviour.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 3 days ago (32 children)

Honestly same thing happens when we talk about men.

Tons of women coming up, saying "women have it worse" and attempting to minimize the importance if men's issues.

Let's just listen to both sides for once, and make everyone heard. When everyone is given a platform to speak, there's no need to interrupt each other.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 3 days ago (15 children)

Why does everything have to be so us-vs.-them? We all share the same planet.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

I'm just going to speak my mind as a Closeted transwoman who would look like a guy

I didn't honestly want to get involved with this thread at all in fear of creating an absolute mess

But being trans myself I see myself having empathy for both woman's and men's rights because I know and understand the issues men are facing and see the issues woman are facing

I don't like seeing the devide on either side and absolutely hate seeing the division and fighting especially when people advocate for men's rights or woman's rights

I personally advocate for both because I see everyone having rights as part of equality and equity and if you don't want any one group to have rights then that isn't equality or equity

We should be free to talk about both men's rights and woman's rights without being attacked for it

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The way this comment section unironically mirrors the comic perfectly.

So many dudes here unironically talking about how men have it hard too 🤦‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (7 children)

It's kinda pathetic lol. How is it so hard for people to understand that maybe the best time to talk about problems affecting you is not when someone else is talking about problems affecting them?

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but no

There are assholes on both sides, like it or not.

Yes, there are loads of men who don't deserve the name, that put women down, who can only be happy on the back of women. Fuck them

Having said that, I very much remember that video of guys going to a support group for men that committed uicide with feminists waiting for them outside to yell things like "it's good that he killed himself!". Fuck those assholes too.

Can we maybe ALL be nice to EVERYONE?

I'm sorry, but this comic doesn't help. The reality is that both men and women face the same nonsense when they bring up what they have to contend with so how about we don't try to disparage either side? Listen to both sides? You know, the thing we should be always doing?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

After this election I agree. We are toxic animals that should be killing ourselves.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

WRT the first panel, I feel that way too.

That said, is this ragebait?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

Okay, I'll just say it.

Everyone has it rough right now. Mostly because we've been thoroughly railroaded by corporations for most of our lives, but still.

Everything sucks.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago (6 children)

This meme is selling shovels, and the comments here are more than happy to dig holes it seems.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Responding directly to the person in the comic

I hear you when you say that as a woman, you feel societal expectations of you can be harsh and contradictory.

There isn't a way for me to experience the same things that you experience, but I can try to empathise with your experiences by comparing them with my own, and noting times when I have felt the same way. This means that I have to compare my experiences with yours. It isn't done from a place of contest, but from trying to relate.

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