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Twitch updates sexual content guidelines amid ‘topless’ meta backlash::undefined

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Where exactly are these topless streams so I can make sure to uh... avoid them... in the future?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (3 children)

If you have an account, just go to one of their channels one time. Twitch will never recommend anything else again.

...Okay, it will sometimes recommend other stuff but you're never gonna be free of "thirst"-related content. Also, https://www.twitch.tv/directory/category/pools-hot-tubs-and-beaches here's the category you want ~~to avoid~~ :P

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

You can click the three dots on recommendations and there is a "not interested" option.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

They usually cover/conceal nipples, so you don't see everything.

In the list of "games", the top item is the "Just Talking" or whatever the category is called. Click that and try various sorting.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

Honestly you can probably scroll the front page and find them if they're on, they'll have a ton of viewers.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Open a new browser tab and navigate to Bing. Type "topless streams" into the search bar. Spend a brief moment being disappointed that it seems like there's no topless streams on the internet. Then disable safe search and make sure you're not connected to a Bluetooth speaker or Chromecasting your screen (actually should have done that before the search, but it's too late, everyone knows you're a porn-seeking pervert, so you might as well just reconnect that Bluetooth speaker).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

This woman mentioned in the article, Morgpie, has quite a bit of content on Reddit and otherwise if you're looking for some research material. She's got some very high quality educational videos...

[–] [email protected] 57 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Oh no, almost visible tits!? Nono we can't have that, it'll morally bankrupt our audience.

Edit: apparently they're more lenient as long as it is properly tagged. Nice.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No actually they have a more open stance if the stream is properly labeled and just won't promote those labels on their front page

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Would you look at that, nice.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (12 children)

My only issue is that kids use the platform a lot and shouldn't be exposed to overly sexualised content when they're just looking for gaming content. Twitch apparently says they'll try to remove it from the front page but stuff inevitably gets though.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (3 children)

You're worried about kids seeing a nipple while they watch a streamer turn their enemy into a bloody mess. If we can accept kids seeing constant violence in their media, I really don't think nudity is a big deal. We have our priorities all messed up.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

There are also Mario videos and Suika. It’s not just nips or Bloodbath the Incinerator HD.

It’s hard parenting because the platforms change quickly and navigating when and how to have impactful conversations with kids is hard.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

I typed out a multiple paragraph response to this and really it boiled down to a couple sentences so I’ll just post them instead. It’s about reputation, twitch doesn’t want to be known as a soft core porn site and if a parent sees a boob then it could impact whether they let their teenager use the site (which to be honest is there most active user base). It’s not about having priorities straight wrt sex vs violence, it’s just maximizing profit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Nah I don't care about that, I care about it being shoved in their faces. My kids are at least old enough to know about these topics somewhat and can make the distinction between video game violence and some cam girl.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (4 children)

What happened to good parenting being a valid solution to a problem like that?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Kids will be kids. Good parenting makes a big difference but kids will end up seeing and seeking these things at some point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And how can twitch prevent that? The parent can just block all of twitch, then whitelist vetted streamers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This works if parents have the technical knowledge to do so. Otherwise it ends with the parents clutching their pearls or just having their ISP block Twitch outright on the router or something. Which might lead to the kids learning the technical skills to get around these blocks if they want to watch Twitch badly enough.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Kids learning to bypass security is a great start for learning technical skills. Inept school IT got a lot of kids started on their way to lucrative jobs.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Good parenting in the age of streaming platforms and social media is a frigging minefield. I’m not saying it should be easy, but it has entirely new challenges that didn’t exist for all of humanity before the internet. You can’t even ban your kids from the platforms to solve the problem because schools depend on YouTube for instruction, and work is done on Chromebooks that parents usually have no admin control over.

Again, not saying parents get a free pass, but the challenges are evident.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I had "good parenting" and I still did so much shit. Lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Good parenting is not letting your children using twitch. Let’s be honest, the whole web is degenerate. You either have to curate absolutely every piece of content your child consumes or have to give them the skills to identify and turn off in appropriate content (which isn’t easy either)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

My 4-year old nephew was watching YouTube Kids one night when I was babysitting, and some roblox trash was on. Usernames and chat were included on-screen. "I hate N****rs" "gas the Jews" and similar were prominent usernames and chat was full of 4Chan type chat. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ All these platforms are unfit for kids.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Should just remove kids tbh

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If Twitch wants to be an adult platform then they should honestly.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Aaaaaand the Art category is covered in furry penises and nude little anime girls...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Sure, but you could have a setting which allows sexualised content to be accessed or showed. Or just a popup when entering the stream like it already does with mature streams or whatever they're called. You can have the streams only visible to people logged in, have people put their age on the account when making it (not sure if already a thing) and not show this stuff to people under 18. Yes you can just say you're 18 but in that case the kids do it deliberately and won't just stumble upon it. Have the parents do an underage account for them. Lots of options, and yes, the parents do have responsibility as well.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Can you imagine the trauma it would cause if a child were to inadvertently see a nipple? Unthinkably horrible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Kids shouldn't be on the internet unsupervised, that's the parents' responsibility. The internet shouldn't have to cater to a bunch of brats that shouldn't be on these platforms in the first place, the internet was never meant for children.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

don't watch it then?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago

Glad I'm not on twitch, or twitter, or instagram or TikTok...but what a time to be alive for camgirls and camboys and everything in between or outside of that.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Why are people so bothered by bare skin?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Because everyone is trying to use sexy/sexuality to sell their crap and I'm absolutely tired of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Don't watch it then? 🤷

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'd say, Twitch is ever increasingly less and less about games and more and more is just becoming PornHub. So, it's ripe for child exploitation (teenagers) and potentially could scare away advertisers.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Because American puritanical culture has conditioned people to see it as taboo... it's a lot different in the rest of the world.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It's funny how defederating a lemmy instance based on ideological differences is community guidlines this, content moderation that, but twitch enforcing a moderation policy is a puritanical america problem. :D

There's nothing wrong with porn, but there are plenty of good, existing places to do it. This is just world politics vs. anime titties all over again.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Are you sure that seeing this on the front page of the art category is not taboo? https://i.imgur.com/nSrEqvD.png

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nah I wouldn't say it is different in the rest of the world. Yes, open minded people everywhere don't get bothered by bare skin in a lot of situations, but there are also a lot of people that perceive it as a taboo. Besides that, a lot of people that okay with bare skin on many contexts, there are still many of them that don't expect or want a bare skin to be a factor in a lot of others, varying by individuals.

For example, I wouldn't mind bare skin and varying degrees of intimacy in a lot of entertainment media, but still I would expect this to me a non-factor in the indicator of quality in most of them. For twitch, a platform that has come about and widely known as a gaming streaming site, I would expect the key performance indicators of content creators to be their gaming skills and gaming related entertainment value, not their bare skin. Alas all of us know that bare skin would definitely be a factor in the KPI of content creators because also sex sells, but I'm not going to Twitch to purchase sex.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not a surprise. There were boobs being fully exposed and no effort to cover them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

I can pretty much guarantee that these streamers were all wearing some kind of strapless bra, halter, or pasties just out of view of the camera. Way safer than risking a nip slip resulting in a permaban

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No one has to watch the channels they don't want to watch. Change the channel if you don't like it. That's why they're called channels.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

They’re constantly popping up on the front page

They do say they’re changing that, so we’ll see if it goes away

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