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For years now, I've been watching most of the trick-or-treaters go to the house on one side of me, take one look at my house and walk right past it, and then go to the house on the other side.

I had no clue why. Maybe they were scared of my house or thought I'd give cheap candy (my house is a bit of a fixer-upper)? I completed my "curb appeal" projects; didn't help.

Maybe they thought nobody was home? I not only have the porch light on, but also have the living room TV on, clearly visible through the (open!) front window, and it makes no difference.

Maybe they think I'm not participating (despite the clear signal of the porch light and jack-o'-lantern)? I put up a bunch of Halloween decorations this year, and it still didn't help!


Well, I finally found out the reason, after hearing one kid scouting ahead yelling to tell his friends to skip my house: "there's no bowl on the porch!"

...You've got to be fucking kidding me.

Yep, unlike my neighbors, who had apparently just left unattended bowls of candy on their porches, I was actually sitting there inside the house, with the bowl of candy, waiting for kids to knock or ring the doorbell before I opened the door and handed it out. You know, like how trick-or-treating is supposed to work.

This is ridiculous. Kids these days are skipping viable houses with candy because they can't be bothered to actually knock on the damn door and say "trick or treat" to the person who answers? Residents are expected to be too lazy to answer the door, and just put out the candy without even receiving the traditional threat first? With no actual interaction with the neighbors for the kids to show off their costumes, what's even the point‽

I finally stuck a sign on the door saying "yes, you have to knock or ring for candy!" and that helped, but even then, some kids are still skipping my house because they apparently can't be bothered to read the sign.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

The kids on my street do come and knock, but they don’t know what to do then. The just stand there waiting - I’m like “what do you say???”, and they go “uhh, thank you???”

C’mon kids!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Is it only me who is surprised that they have a scout to optimise the process?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply it was an organized operation. I think it was more just one kid who was faster/more eager than his buddies. Or maybe just standing next to them but loud, for all I know!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

Candy is serious business

[–] [email protected] 29 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

LOL put a ginormous bowl on your porch with a sign in it that says RING BELL FOR CANDY

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

I live in an apartment building on the ground floor, I always tape a sign to my decorated window to inform people where to ring for trick or treating. It works quite well for me, and groups know immediately who is willing to give out candy

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago

It is because all you had was those weird black and orange taffies. No-one can eat those.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

When people have moved to leaving candy out, perhaps kids thought that not having them out means you're not participating. Also, when many houses have left them out, for efficiency, it makes sense to only go to those houses.

I'm glad to hear that the sign helped. Shows that some kids aren't just about getting as much candy as possible but also having a bit of fun.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

I’ve done Halloween for the first time in the uk with my 2 year old, and we passed a few lightly decorated doors (apartment block). Most other flats had a bowl of candy outside and is this one not having it, we were not sure if we could knock or not. I found myself thinking that they were out or didn’t want to be bothered. It has become very unclear. I think next year even if I’m at home (before we go trick or treating) I will put a sign on the door if I want them to knock, so I make it clear to all.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I think you're looking at it wrong. It's likely not that kids are too lazy to knock but that your neighbors are too lazy to answer the door. The kids see everyone on the street leaving bowls out and assume that if someone on the street doesn't have a bowl, then they're not doing Halloween like everyone else is.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

That's not it at all. Literally, my children told me, "I don't want to go up, I just want to go to the houses with bowls". But it's not a lazy thing, it's a social anxiety thing. We don't chat with strangers, we don't make small talk with people we don't know, we don't ask people things we can find out without asking people things. We're socially awkward parents and we have socially awkward children.

Millennials, the ones who would much rather text than call on the phone their dearest friends and closest relatives, are 35-40 years old. They're the ones with halloweening children and those kids are just ask averse to face to face interactions with neighborhood residents as we are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

We must be the good kind of awkward. My kid got an unreasonable amount of candy knocking on doors.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I saw quite a few people sitting outside their houses with their candy ready for the kids. Some even organized them on tables so the kids could come up, pick one, be handed it and go.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Has it always been like this or is this a result of the pandemic?

Going out this year I saw lots of folks just outside their house during the start of trick or treating. It was actually really neat. And I just.. didn't expect it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Out of curosity, how was the weather in your end of the world? We had the same thing happen this year, but mostly because it was unseasonably warm.

Granted, it was also 'cause we had a fog machine this year, but the weather played a big part.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Yeah good point, it was fucked up warm this year

[–] [email protected] 113 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Leave a bowl out with a sign that says "if the bowl is empty, please knock." You don't even have to fill the bowl with anything.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Classic "bait and switch" tactic. Guess OP isn't an used car's seller.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

hey look buddy I've got some amazing advice for OP over here but I had another OP call me 10 minutes ago asking for the exact same advice so I'm gonna need you to make a decision right away.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

In our neighborhood a lot of families set up a fire pit in the driveway and hang out passing out candy. It's something we hadn't seen before moving into our neighborhood and we love it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Yep! One house in our neighborhood always has their grill going in the driveway, giving out hotdogs, another has cider and mini bottles. Firepits and lounge chairs, it's so nice.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 21 hours ago

You gotta be outside chilling shooting the shit with neighbors at the end of your driveway these days. My door would fall off the hinges if I had to open it for every kid

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It’s a holdover from Covid. It isn’t some glaring indictment of “kids these days”. The social contract changed with Covid and will take time to go back or maybe never does.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I have a tube-based distribution system from the second-floor window that I started using during COVID to keep my distance from those plague incubators that came calling, and just never stopped using it.

I live in a moderately cold climate, and Halloween evening nearly always drops to around -5℃ to 5℃. So it’s much nicer to just sit in a cushy armchair by the window with a warm blanket over my legs and drop candy through the tube. A surprising amount of adults, teens, and tweens are tickled pink by that system, although a lot of little kids need a surprising amount of direction to get their candy.

And yes, I always drop either two pieces or - for those in dark hoods and carrying scythes - full-sized snickers.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Yeah, in my area trunk or treat is the main reason for no trick or treaters these days. It's a very urban area, so getting a lot of candy on foot would be easy, but walking around a parking lot is way quicker. It seems to be what most parents prefer also, so I think it's here to stay.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Not my favorite. I found a neighborhood that others tend to drive to, which I think is most other people's ideas, so it ends up getting slammed. Which imo would be sort of fun to decorate for

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I loathe trunk or treat. It's not the same as trick or treating, it's cheating. When I was young the only way I got a bunch of candy was to run all over the neighborhood, and then run to the other neighborhoods to squeeze in more. I was out and about, acting the fool, where chicanery abounds. I'd end up at home, exhausted at the end of the night.

Today's kids walk around a parking lot. It's just not the same.

When we were kids halloween was the best. As an adult, there was nothing more I looked forward to than handing out candy, seeing costumes, scaring some kids with all my decorations. But now it's all sanitized and boiled down into the something as ludicrous as walking around a parking lot asking for handouts from cars. What, are they just prepping the nations children for a life of panhandling? Joking aside, it's just not as fun for anyone involved. I don't want to drive somewhere and decorate the fucking trunk of my car (especially when I decorated my house already?), and the kids don't want to walk around a parking lot!

Trunk or treat is the worst solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

It takes a lot of the magic out of it. I'm sure a bit of this is rose-colored glasses, but it was a really neat experience as a kid. The entire neighborhood was out in the streets, people got to know their neighbors, and you felt like you were part of something. These days​, it feels spooky due to how empty it is besides cars.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The last time I left a bowl on my porch, literally the first group that came took all the candy and threw the bowl into my lawn. It disincentivized from doing so again.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I did this and they stole the bowl too.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 23 hours ago

Maybe meet them half way and sit on the porch and hand out candy? I used to go to my parent's house to help them hand out candy and I noticed it took a bit of effort for the smaller kids climb the stairs. There's no railing and knowing how dangerously slick their steps got if they were damp, i started sitting at the bottom to hand out candy.

It seems trick or treating isn't as popular with the kids as it used to be. Ironically, it seems more popular than ever with adults. Some houses I've seen look like they must rent a storage unit to keep all the decorations they put up. We used to fill a set of dad's old clothes with leaves, splap a plastic punkin on top for a head and call it a day

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

Do you live in a sketchy area? That hasn't been my experience at all. We had 90 kids in total knock on our door yesterday for trick or treat!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I took my kids last night and every house had people sitting on the porch with a bowl. None of the houses they knocked on opened the door. There were hundreds of kids around us and I didn’t hear anyone say trick or treat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

Where is the home owner hiding in the bush with a garden hose?

There used to be more trickery. Or Boomers are twisted.

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They go for the unattended bowls so they can just take it all for themselves. I dressed up as a decoration scarecrow one or two years after I was too old to trick or treat myself and held a bowl of candy in my lap out on the porch. Every kid that attempted to take the entire bowl, got a scare as I stood up and shouted scary things like "TAKE THE BOWL, I TAKE YOUR SOUL!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

This is the way. I vote op does this next year!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago

I sit on the porch with the bowl, it's nice to see them walking around. It's easier for both parties, and I can dress up too.

I think it's because fewer houses are doing it, mostly. But I don't understand skipping very decorated houses, and honestly wouldn't leave out a bowl of candy here.

The sitting on the porch thing is traditional here now (my mom sat inside but I'm over 50 now and since being old enough to be on the treating side have always sat out with the candy and that's more usual as far as I can tell) Though my kids always did go up and try if a light was on outside.

Maybe they are also a little more sensible too, lol - a princess last night looked in the bowl and said, nah there's nothing I like, happy Halloween. My kids would have taken some anyway and traded it around, but it is always too much by the time they are done.

Overall I agree, they should yell TRICK OR TREAT but am glad nobody is, like egging your house if you don't have a treat for them.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

That's so weird. When I used to trick-or-treat (not murican so it was different ofc, and also we went to apartment doors instead of houses) I always assumed that if someone had a candy bowl it was just because they weren't home that night, and I think I preferred it when they answered the door and gave us the candy themselves. It was nice to show off my costume and perhaps even get a compliment from an adult pretending to be scared.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

what ours changed to is we'd sit on the porch. we live in a nice warm climate so it doesn't make much difference if we sit in or outside, but the older kids know if your porch light is on, you can knock. If it's off, go away.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I didn't get a single knock last night.

Spooky decorations, LED candles, WLED providing backup lighting, 12 XL Hershey bars with frozen Snickers as backup.

Not. One. Knock.

Fuck em -- we'll be eating smores all winter. 🤷

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago

Put a bowl out but in the bowl just have a sign that says "please knock"

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Everyone in my area stays outside, no matter the weather. No kids knock on any doors. Also, no one leaves out a bowl, that shit would be gone in minutes. But people are outside with portable fire rings, music, some have cocktails for the adults. It's the only night of the year all of the neighbors are outside and socializing. Honestly it's great.

[–] [email protected] 156 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

My guess is, the kids aren't supposed to knock and interact with strangers anymore cause their parents are scared.
Some places, trick or treating has been replaced with a group of parents driving to a parking lot and their kids going from truck to truck.

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